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I can't really see us getting value out of him, definitely not that much. At this point would we not be content if we got his contract off the books for nothing via Seattle.

No expert agrees with that statement. Burns puts up 50pts in a bad year and the NHL knows it. He's a fitness beast and is rarely ever injured. His contract is only tough because he's over 35, but he's also likely to remain effective for the majority of its remaining term.

He was and will continue to be outperformed by Erik Karlsson, even more now that he's fully healthy.
"no expert agrees" Literally Kevin Kurz does, and has written numerous articles about it. The Athletic's most recent expansion draft had the Sharks exposing him and him being taken. 8 million for a not defensively reliable defenseman is steep, and it only gets worse with time, and everyone knows that. No one is going to throw two 2nds at that.

I don't know man. Like from both sides I don't really think it makes sense.

Burns is very very clearly the better player between the two so the Sharks doing this would be in for a pretty substantial downgrade. With that being said, I don't think the cats would pay that much for Burns because the term on his contract is bad and they would get out of the Stralman contract in only 2 years. But at the end of the day, the Panthers' monetary issues (I think) makes it a definite no for them. They can't afford to pay a lot in salary and Burns is owed about 35M to Stralman's 11M. They just can't afford that unless we're calling them the 'Quebec Nordiques' by 2022.

Kurz qualifies that SJS will likely want to get something for him rather than lose him for free, and Burns may agree to a trade rather than going to SEA against his will. Kurz has stated many times that Burns is worth a high pick or two even with his heavy contract. Even more recently, Elliot Friedman emphasized Burns effectiveness and value in a recent 31 in 31 segment. $8M is the going rate for 50+ pts from a defenseman.

I know, I don't want to lose him either. But, I have a feeling he's gonna get traded rather than lost for free.

I chose FLA in this scenario because Burns might not be worth his contract in 4 years, but he's definitely worth his contract in the next 2, and the Cats are definitely looking for more scoring right now. Losing Stralman's $5.5M cap hit for Burns' $8M cap hit is negligible if the production from the blue line doubles for it.

Nobody is taking his contract without a considerable sweetener. You're definitely not getting two 2nd rounders for him lmaoo

I don't really have a problem with losing Burns at all. Personally, if were talking realistically, I think the best swap we could get for him in this scenario would be like Burns for Stralman and a one 2nd. And that's discounting the fact that I don't think the Panthers consider in the first place. I'm just not sure if that's the swap we want to be making.

His 3 team trade list, makes him a San Jose for life in all probability. Teams don't want his 8m long term cap, never mind giving up assets for him. Only way to trade (he Burns wanted to be traded) would be to trade similar cap and similar term.

The fact that he'll be outperformed by one of the best D of all time at age 30 seems like a very disingenuous element to bring up in this situation lol yeesh

Like faulting a 2 star michelin restaurant for not being a 3 star michelin restaurant or something idk

Burns seems likely to be a 5M$ D until 40 so 😐