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Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 26 oct. 2020
Publié: 26 oct. 2020
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26 oct. 2020 à 15 h 16
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I don`t mind this too much. But lines should and would be Guentzel-Sid-Kap Zucker-Malkin-Kovalchuk McCann-Jenner-Rust Jankowski-Blueger-Tanev

Also I think Pens overpaid a bit. Take out ZAR or the second.
26 oct. 2020 à 15 h 33
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Modifié 26 oct. 2020 à 15 h 52
Quoting: Eddy
I don`t mind this too much. But lines should and would be Guentzel-Sid-Kap Zucker-Malkin-Kovalchuk McCann-Jenner-Rust Jankowski-Blueger-Tanev

Also I think Pens overpaid a bit. Take out ZAR or the second.


That drives me nuts. You do know it’s been a Guentzel/Malkin/Rust line for 3 years now.?? 4 years if u count 16-17 when it was Rust after Kessel moved down to the HBK line(3rd line). Why break up that line?? It’s set. They have been building chemistry for 3 years now. Let’s worry about Crobsy’s Line. We been looking for his wingers since 15-16 and it was Kunitz/Crosby/Dupree. Well, 16-17 it was Kunitz/Crosby/Hornqvist and that was good too. Won a SC.

But we’ve been looking for Crosby’s LW for years. It’s always been that Simon/Sherry/Sprong mix. Last year when we brought in Zucker. He scored 6 goals and 10 points in 11 games on Crosbys line. We tried him on Malkins line and broke up the Guentzel/Malkin/Rust combo, it was a disaster. Zucker has 0 goals and 1 point in 4 games. Guenzel/Malkin/Rust in set. And our 4th line when Z.A.R comes back(Tanev/Blueger/ZAR) Let’s work on the Crosby line and our 3rd line. Although we are gonna give the Zucker/Crosby/Kappy line a shot and see how that works this year. And they are the 2 best wingers Crosby has had in along time. And if neither or Kappy don’t step-up. Crosby has been carrying his own line for years and can do it again.
26 oct. 2020 à 15 h 39
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Take our ZAR as we really have no use for another depth defense first wing. It seems like a fair ish trade, depending on how the prospect is viewed.
26 oct. 2020 à 15 h 50
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Modifié 26 oct. 2020 à 16 h 15
Quoting: Eddy
I don`t mind this too much. But lines should and would be Guentzel-Sid-Kap Zucker-Malkin-Kovalchuk McCann-Jenner-Rust Jankowski-Blueger-Tanev

Also I think Pens overpaid a bit. Take out ZAR or the second.


And did u ever play hockey?? Or understand how hard it is for a winger to play his off side?? Yes, not as difficult as D. Cause on D. Your forehand is always in the middle of the ice on your Forehand. And on D, that’s obvioulsy bad. Bad to have the puck and pass the puck in the middle of the ice in their zone. And to clear up the boards, you are always on your back-hand. Playing on your strong side, you can clear up the boards on your forehand and just an easy wrister. Left-handed D playing the Right side is very tough. Or vice a versa.

But on offense the advance is shooting. If you are playing your off-side, you are shooting your forehand in the middle of the ice. But still, not just an easy transition. Especially, a young player that has been playing his strong side growing up and always cause he always been the top player in his team.

Carrying the puck up. You don’t have the boards to protect the puck like you do on your strong side. You have to be very strong to do that. Like OVI. The best right-handed shot I’ve ever seen play the Left-side. But that’s cause he is so strong. Guenzel/Zucker are not. They play on their strong side.

And when taking a pass from the D, along the boards. Skating up the ice. You have to receive the puck on your backhand, pick it up and switch to your forehand continue skating up the ice, faster than everyone else..lol.

The only reason Guentzel/Zucker do have a Rw on this site is my guess cause he does play the Right side on the power play. Cause like I said, the forehand shot advantage being in the middle of the ice on your weak side. But keeping the puck in the zone along the boards, like for offensive on the PP, keeping the puck on-sides, you have to play along the boards w/ your back hand. Very hard. Again, another very big disadvantage for D playing the opposite side. You can’t just stop the puck along the boards on your forehand and rist it back into the zone. You have to stop it on your backhmad. And players usually pick it up and switch it to their forehand and rist it back along the boards. But that takes a lot of practice, or skill and good footwork too.

It’s not as easy as just saying you can play the RW, it’s the same thing. It’s not at all. It would be like telling a baseball player, hey, switch and hit lefty. We need more lefties in our line-up against a RH pitcher..lol. Not that easy. And to make switch in the MLB, against MLB players and MLB pitchers and after playing growing up and your whole career batting right-handed.
26 oct. 2020 à 15 h 51
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Quoting: Ajp_18
Take our ZAR as we really have no use for another depth defense first wing. It seems like a fair ish trade, depending on how the prospect is viewed.


Our top Defensive prospect. We got when we traded away Kessel.
26 oct. 2020 à 16 h 14
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Our top Defensive prospect. We got when we traded away Kessel.


I know he’s your top d prospect, it’s just deleting on if people think he’s top pair, 2nd pair or whatever.
26 oct. 2020 à 16 h 22
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I know he’s your top d prospect, it’s just deleting on if people think he’s top pair, 2nd pair or whatever.


Good two-way D. A lot of offensive though too. Can run the PP. Top 4 for sure. He was 6’3 163 coming into the Pens. Is now 6’3, 185. Put on over 20 pounds since being with us. The baby Pens(Wilksberre-Scranton Penguins) coach loves him last year. Said he’s NHL ready and could’ve played in the NHL last year. He made the Pens play-off taxi-squad. He would have played if we made it passed the 1st round. In the AHL last year he played 25 minutes a game. Like I said, the coach loves him and played him in every situation. PP and PK. He’s gonna be good. Excited to see him in a Pens uni. Cause most likely they won’t trade him. But we do need a better 3rd line. So we have to do something. And right now, are LHD is our deepest position.
26 oct. 2020 à 16 h 26
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Take our ZAR as we really have no use for another depth defense first wing. It seems like a fair ish trade, depending on how the prospect is viewed.


Z.A.R is a top defensive wing in the league. Was the top if you look at the analytics. And can score some goals too. Is a PK killer. He’s a top winger for that defensive, shut-down, line. You guys would love him. Cheap too. Young too.
26 oct. 2020 à 16 h 32
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Z.A.R is a top defensive wing in the league. Was the top if you look at the analytics. And can score some goals too. Is a PK killer. He’s a top winger for that defensive, shut-down, line. You guys would love him. Cheap too. Young too.


Yeah.... Columbus has 0 use for more defensive wings.... I know who ZAR is, you don’t have to sell me on him. He’s just useless for Columbus considering we have a bunch of bottom 6 wings who play defense first, that’s the issue, we have too many players like that, we need scorers, not more defensive players.
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And did u ever play hockey?? Or understand how hard it is for a winger to play his off side?? Yes, not as difficult as D. Cause on D. Your forehand is always in the middle of the ice on your Forehand. And on D, that’s obvioulsy bad. Bad to have the puck and pass the puck in the middle of the ice in their zone. And to clear up the boards, you are always on your back-hand. Playing on your strong side, you can clear up the boards on your forehand and just an easy wrister. Left-handed D playing the Right side is very tough. Or vice a versa.

But on offense the advance is shooting. If you are playing your off-side, you are shooting your forehand in the middle of the ice. But still, not just an easy transition. Especially, a young player that has been playing his strong side growing up and always cause he always been the top player in his team.

Carrying the puck up. You don’t have the boards to protect the puck like you do on your strong side. You have to be very strong to do that. Like OVI. The best right-handed shot I’ve ever seen play the Left-side. But that’s cause he is so strong. Guenzel/Zucker are not. They play on their strong side.

And when taking a pass from the D, along the boards. Skating up the ice. You have to receive the puck on your backhand, pick it up and switch to your forehand continue skating up the ice, faster than everyone else..lol.

The only reason Guentzel/Zucker do have a Rw on this site is my guess cause he does play the Right side on the power play. Cause like I said, the forehand shot advantage being in the middle of the ice on your weak side. But keeping the puck in the zone along the boards, like for offensive on the PP, keeping the puck on-sides, you have to play along the boards w/ your back hand. Very hard. Again, another very big disadvantage for D playing the opposite side. You can’t just stop the puck along the boards on your forehand and rist it back into the zone. You have to stop it on your backhmad. And players usually pick it up and switch it to their forehand and rist it back along the boards. But that takes a lot of practice, or skill and good footwork too.

It’s not as easy as just saying you can play the RW, it’s the same thing. It’s not at all. It would be like telling a baseball player, hey, switch and hit lefty. We need more lefties in our line-up against a RH pitcher..lol. Not that easy. And to make switch in the MLB, against MLB players and MLB pitchers and after playing growing up and your whole career batting right-handed.


Man what are you talking about? That had nothing to do with my comment. You just wasted so much time writing something that just about anyone who has played hockey understands. Can you also explain to me what offsides are?

I guarantee I played higher hockey than you also.

Quoting: Penguins21
That drives me nuts. You do know it’s been a Guentzel/Malkin/Rust line for 3 years now.?? 4 years if u count 16-17 when it was Rust after Kessel moved down to the HBK line(3rd line). Why break up that line?? It’s set. They have been building chemistry for 3 years now. Let’s worry about Crobsy’s Line. We been looking for his wingers since 15-16 and it was Kunitz/Crosby/Dupree. Well, 16-17 it was Kunitz/Crosby/Hornqvist and that was good too. Won a SC.

But we’ve been looking for Crosby’s LW for years. It’s always been that Simon/Sherry/Sprong mix. Last year when we brought in Zucker. He scored 6 goals and 10 points in 11 games on Crosbys line. We tried him on Malkins line and broke up the Guentzel/Malkin/Rust combo, it was a disaster. Zucker has 0 goals and 1 point in 4 games. Guenzel/Malkin/Rust in set. And our 4th line when Z.A.R comes back(Tanev/Blueger/ZAR) Let’s work on the Crosby line and our 3rd line. Although we are gonna give the Zucker/Crosby/Kappy line a shot and see how that works this year. And they are the 2 best wingers Crosby has had in along time. And if neither or Kappy don’t step-up. Crosby has been carrying his own line for years and can do it again.


You have no idea what you`re talking about and are completely wrong on that. Sid and Guentzel have played together whenever both are healthy and will continue to do that. Rutherford even said so like a week ago it would be Guentzel-Sid-Kap.

You know absolutely nothing.
28 oct. 2020 à 1 h 1
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Good two-way D. A lot of offensive though too. Can run the PP. Top 4 for sure. He was 6’3 163 coming into the Pens. Is now 6’3, 185. Put on over 20 pounds since being with us. The baby Pens(Wilksberre-Scranton Penguins) coach loves him last year. Said he’s NHL ready and could’ve played in the NHL last year. He made the Pens play-off taxi-squad. He would have played if we made it passed the 1st round. In the AHL last year he played 25 minutes a game. Like I said, the coach loves him and played him in every situation. PP and PK. He’s gonna be good. Excited to see him in a Pens uni. Cause most likely they won’t trade him. But we do need a better 3rd line. So we have to do something. And right now, are LHD is our deepest position.


Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.


What part??

Copy and pasted from this article:

https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2019/08/28/pittsburgh-penguins-prospects-2/

Excellent pivots and edgework allow him to cover 360 degrees of ice. He keeps himself in front of attackers and maintains good gap control with his smooth skating and his lateral agility. Joseph can also use his agility to walk the line in the offensive zone and to open up shooting and passing lanes. Joseph has bulked up since his draft year, adding over 20 pounds in the last two years. He is strong on the puck and wins more battles in the corners and in front of the net as a result. There is probably a bit more room to add muscle to his lanky frame. How much is necessary will be seen as he tests himself against professional opponents again this year.

https://www.nhl.com/player/pierre-olivier-joseph-8480058
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Quoting: Penguins21
What part??

Copy and pasted from this article:

https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2019/08/28/pittsburgh-penguins-prospects-2/

Excellent pivots and edgework allow him to cover 360 degrees of ice. He keeps himself in front of attackers and maintains good gap control with his smooth skating and his lateral agility. Joseph can also use his agility to walk the line in the offensive zone and to open up shooting and passing lanes. Joseph has bulked up since his draft year, adding over 20 pounds in the last two years. He is strong on the puck and wins more battles in the corners and in front of the net as a result. There is probably a bit more room to add muscle to his lanky frame. How much is necessary will be seen as he tests himself against professional opponents again this year.

https://www.nhl.com/player/pierre-olivier-joseph-8480058


He made the Pens play-off taxi squad last year.

Wilksberre-Scaton pens assisted coach loves him and played him 25 plus minutes a game last year. In every situation. On PP and PK. Said he could’ve played NHL minutes last year.

“He could have played games this year in certain situations,” he said. “No doubt, he could play games next year“

https://pittsburghhockeynow.com/exclusive-coach-raves-about-joseph-he-could-play-in-nhl-next-year-pittsburgh-penguins/

This article also says he’s gained weight. And keeps gaining and growing. Mentally too.

“At 6-foot-2, 162 pounds, Joseph was slight, but he is incredibly fast and has good vision. Joseph gained weight, mostly muscle for his first pro season, and kept growing, mentally, too”.

Joseph “WAS” slight. WAS
28 oct. 2020 à 2 h 5
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Quoting: Eddy
Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.



Read the previous 2 posts. I don’t know what I said that was so wrong to you again..?
 
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