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Trading Monahan to Columbus

Créé par: JamesJohnson
Date de création initiale: oct 21, 2020
Publié: 21 oct à 0 h 24
Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
Leivo, Josh11 000 000 $
Weber, Yannick1700 000 $
Transactions
CGY
  1. Bjorkstrand, Oliver
  2. Savard, David (1 000 000 $ retained)
CBJ
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Kylington, Oliver [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2021 3e round pick (CGY)
Rachats de contrats
  • Troy Brouwer: 1 500 000 $
  • Michael Stone: 1 166 667 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
CGY
CGY
EDM
CGY
CGY
CGY
2022
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
2023
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 689 166 $0 $457 500 $810 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
CGY
Gaudreau, Johnny
6 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
CGY
Lindholm, Elias
4 850 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
CBJ
Bjorkstrand, Oliver
2 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
CGY
Mangiapane, Andrew
2 425 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
CGY
Backlund, Mikael
5 350 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 4
CGY
Tkachuk, Matthew
7 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
CGY
Lucic, Milan
5 250 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 3
CGY
Bennett, Sam
2 550 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
CGY
Dubé, Dillon
778 333 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
CGY
Nordström, Joakim
700 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
CGY
Ryan, Derek
3 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Leivo, Josh
1 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
CGY
Giordano, Mark
6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
CBJ
Savard, David
3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
CGY
Markström, Jacob
6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
CGY
Hanifin, Noah
4 950 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
CGY
Andersson, Rasmus
4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
CGY
Rittich, David
2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
CGY
Välimäki, Juuso
894 166 $
DG
RFA - 1
CGY
Tanev, Christopher
4 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Weber, Yannick
700 000 $
DD
UFA
CGY
Gawdin, Glenn
700 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
CGY
Robinson, Buddy
700 000 $
AD
UFA - 1

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21 oct à 0 h 26
#1
HadesOfSocal
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You’re getting fleeced tbh.
21 oct à 0 h 27
#2
Beanmachine
Rejoint: mai 2018
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And when you have to reup both of them as well as Dube, Bennett and Valimaki next year where is the $$ coming from?
21 oct à 0 h 33
#3
Specmence
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Normally would consider but with Domi no longer need a center. Plus we're really big on Bjorkstrand. He's a lock for the RW1 spot. But it's a fair trade otherwise.
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21 oct à 0 h 35
#4
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If your reason for moving Monahan is he is not a legitimate 1C then you are going to be greatly disappointed by Lindholm as he is not a better 1C (arguably worse). The downgrade from Monahan to Bjorkstrand here is definitely not at all worth it and I'm a fan of Bjorkstrand.
21 oct à 0 h 40
#5
slomo
Rejoint: jun 2018
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Quoting: InTreWeTrust
And when you have to reup both of them as well as Dube, Bennett and Valimaki next year where is the $$ coming from?


Lucic gets bought out, Ryan is not resigned and Gaudreau will be traded for prospects and draft picks. That's about $15 mil freed up rather quickly and replaced with the likes of more players like Nordstrom, Leivo to fill in the bottom 6 lines.
21 oct à 0 h 48
#6
Jets Fan
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Quoting: slomo
Lucic gets bought out, Ryan is not resigned and Gaudreau will be traded for prospects and draft picks. That's about $15 mil freed up rather quickly and replaced with the likes of more players like Nordstrom, Leivo to fill in the bottom 6 lines.


You’d probably want a cheaper backup too, so there’s another 1.5Mish freed up. Could also let Savard walk since you have Andersson and Tanev on the right
21 oct à 1 h 08
#7
get off my lawn...
Rejoint: jui 2018
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
If your reason for moving Monahan is he is not a legitimate 1C then you are going to be greatly disappointed by Lindholm as he is not a better 1C (arguably worse). The downgrade from Monahan to Bjorkstrand here is definitely not at all worth it and I'm a fan of Bjorkstrand.


I’m no Monahan fan, not as a 1c anyway but wtf is this trade. This is horrible.

I like lindholm better at C than Monahan but you are right. It’s not going to cut it.

If there were some way to Johnny and mony for a true 1c it would be worth it. But it would have to be eichel or Point type of impact player. But teams don’t move players like that.
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21 oct à 1 h 20
#8
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I’m no Monahan fan, not as a 1c anyway but wtf is this trade. This is horrible.

I like lindholm better at C than Monahan but you are right. It’s not going to cut it.

If there were some way to Johnny and mony for a true 1c it would be worth it. But it would have to be eichel or Point type of impact player. But teams don’t move players like that.


Well if Toews is pissed enough he might waive I would totally trade for him but not either of Monahan or Gaudreau (doubt they would have much interest in either anyways).
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21 oct à 1 h 23
#9
get off my lawn...
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Well if Toews is pissed enough he might waive I would totally trade for him but not either of Monahan or Gaudreau (doubt they would have much interest in either anyways).


I agree, but flames wouldn’t want to give up the young prospects it would take. The picks they could deal but they just don’t have enough in the pipe right now.
21 oct à 1 h 30
#10
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I agree, but flames wouldn’t want to give up the young prospects it would take. The picks they could deal but they just don’t have enough in the pipe right now.


Maybe, Zary and the defense are untouchable but I think with the emergence of Dube and Mangiapane, Zavgorodny and Pelletier are totally tradeable assets. Also if you win the cup it doesn't matter what you gave up to get there. Look at Tampa, they traded the equivalent of 3 1sts at the TDL for Coleman and Goodrow. I bet if you ask any bolts fan (myself included) they would still 100% do those trades since they won
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21 oct à 1 h 34
#11
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Maybe, Zary and the defense are untouchable but I think with the emergence of Dube and Mangiapane, Zavgorodny and Pelletier are totally tradeable assets. Also if you win the cup it doesn't matter what you gave up to get there. Look at Tampa, they traded the equivalent of 3 1sts at the TDL for Coleman and Goodrow. I bet if you ask any bolts fan (myself included) they would still 100% do those trades since they won


Yup, I saw your agm. It certainly makes sense. For both teams actually. But only in a vacuum. You don’t just move a guy like toews after everything he has done for your organization.
21 oct à 2 h 14
#12
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Fair value- sure
Of interest to Columbus- I’d say not really
Is it going to happen- not a chance.
 
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