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Carlo and strong 3rd line

Créé par: MatthewsDynasty
Date de création initiale: oct 16, 2020
Publié: 16 oct à 21 h 20
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Transactions
TOR
  1. Carlo, Brandon
BOS
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. 2021 1e round pick (TOR)
  3. 2022 2e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Heinen, Danton (1 400 000 $ retained)
ANA
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. 2022 4e round pick (TOR)
  3. 2021 5e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Acciari, Noel
FLA
  1. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2022 6e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Blueger, Teddy
PIT
  1. Mikheyev, Ilya [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
Enfoui
  • Pierre Engvall: 175 000 $ (1 250 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $81 002 700 $0 $0 $497 300 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
821 667 $
AG
RFA - 3
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
ANA
Heinen, Danton
1 400 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
FLA
Acciari, Noel
1 666 667 $
AD, C
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Thornton, Joe
700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
BOS
Carlo, Brandon
2 850 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
1 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Marincin, Martin
700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Boyd, Travis
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Vesey, Jimmy
900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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16 oct à 21 h 22
#1
HadesOfSocal
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I’d rather keep Heinen
16 oct à 21 h 22
#2
Halla
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why would the bruins do this ? they already lost krug and chara might be done. they arent gonna roll McAvoy and a bunch of 3rd pair guys on D
16 oct à 21 h 23
#3
pulls out calculator
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can't see a cap strapped penguins giving up teddy blueger, that guy is literally selke material and he's young/dirt cheap AND a centreman
Pens3lieve et Cdub a aimé ceci.
16 oct à 21 h 23
#4
Bcarlo25
Rejoint: mai 2018
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Bahahahaha. My gosh. Okay folks. Let’s hear him out. Clearly, this is absolutely insane, so why not give us your logic. Maybe you’ll talk us into what looks like a dumpster fire.
16 oct à 21 h 24
#5
Hockey IQ
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
can't see a cap strapped penguins giving up teddy blueger, that guy is literally selke material and he's young/dirt cheap AND a centreman


nice to hear a non pens fan saying it.
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16 oct à 21 h 24
#6
themostleaf33
Rejoint: sep 2020
Messages: 1,241
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Too much for Carlo

Robertson will be just as good if not better the Heinen

Dubas is high on Dermott so I think the leafs keep him

Mikheyev > Blueger imo
16 oct à 21 h 27
#7
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: themostleaf33
Too much for Carlo

Robertson will be just as good if not better the Heinen

Dubas is high on Dermott so I think the leafs keep him

Mikheyev > Blueger imo


Oh man you’re precious. If the leafs want to make an offer for Carlo it starts with Nylander or the e-mail goes to spam.
bhavikp27 a aimé ceci.
16 oct à 21 h 32
#8
Démarrer sujet
Rejoint: avr 2020
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Oh man you’re precious. If the leafs want to make an offer for Carlo it starts with Nylander or the e-mail goes to spam.


Bro you are getting a first, a 2nd and a middle 6 forward/3c.

You could trade those 2 picks for a great LHD
16 oct à 21 h 35
#9
themostleaf33
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Oh man you’re precious. If the leafs want to make an offer for Carlo it starts with Nylander or the e-mail goes to spam.


No I just think that is too much for Carlo. He is great defensively but without Krug there to carry his offensive play, he is gonna be a bit of a disappointment next year imo.
16 oct à 21 h 36
#10
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: MatthewsDynasty
Bro you are getting a first, a 2nd and a middle 6 forward/3c.

You could trade those 2 picks for a great LHD


Or just keep their cost controlled 23 year old number 2 d man? Seems more simple.

The bruins are in their contending window. Want to trade with them? Offer something that makes the team better. This is a laugh out loud bad trade. What next? Prospects for McAvoy? Depth for Pastrnak?
16 oct à 21 h 37
#11
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: themostleaf33
No I just think that is too much for Carlo. He is great defensively but without Krug there to carry his offensive play, he is gonna be a bit of a disappointment next year imo.


I think Carlo did a fair amount of carrying krug too. More to the point, why is boston trading their top end players for picks? Did i miss something?
bhavikp27 a aimé ceci.
16 oct à 21 h 39
#12
themostleaf33
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
I think Carlo did a fair amount of carrying krug too. More to the point, why is boston trading their top end players for picks? Did i miss something?


I'm not saying they will, I think it would be dumb for them to do, I'm just saying that the leafs were given a chance to get Weegar for Johnsson+Dermott and Dubas passed because I think he is very high on Dermott. So I doubt they give up a 1st+2nd+Kerfoot for Carlo. That is all I'm saying
16 oct à 21 h 55
#13
Vegan Commie Hipster
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
can't see a cap strapped penguins giving up teddy blueger, that guy is literally selke material and he's young/dirt cheap AND a centreman


Quite weak in other ways though but that is neat, funny that both he and ZAR are so similar, plus the bonus of his name being "Theodors Bluegers"
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16 oct à 21 h 57
#14
Vegan Commie Hipster
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Oh man you’re precious. If the leafs want to make an offer for Carlo it starts with Nylander or the e-mail goes to spam.


Seems like you're biased towards him though given your username as he's not overly good, just got rushed to the NHL and is now stabilizing decently

Carlo averages just over 10 points a season and he isn't exactly Anton Stralman defensively so...

Maybe it isn't quite enough value but like, gosh
16 oct à 22 h 08
#15
bhavikp27
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Quoting: themostleaf33
No I just think that is too much for Carlo. He is great defensively but without Krug there to carry his offensive play, he is gonna be a bit of a disappointment next year imo.


Lmao Carlo is actually the one that covered for Krug more than the opposite. Carlo has been improving for 3 years now and he was RD1 his rookie season when he has 19/20 playing alongside a 40yo Chara and he looked good. Got better each and every year and is a top5 defensive dman.

Quoting: Radu47
Carlo averages just over 10 points a season and he isn't exactly Anton Stralman defensively so...


What does this even mean? Stralman is a 3rd pair D right now.
16 oct à 22 h 10
#16
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: Radu47
Seems like you're biased towards him though given your username as he's not overly good, just got rushed to the NHL and is now stabilizing decently

Carlo averages just over 10 points a season and he isn't exactly Anton Stralman defensively so...

Maybe it isn't quite enough value but like, gosh


Alright you’re missing something, well a couple things.


Say it with me. Good. Teams. Don’t. Trade. Their. Important. Players. For. Draft. Picks. Get it? Thats the main point.

But nah he’s elite defensively. You a leafs fan? There were more than a couple playoff games recently against the leafs where Carlo was the best player on the ice. Not just my opinion. The opinion of the likes of Lebrun and McKenzie. The game isn’t all about points, and sometimes, just sometimes, it isn’t played on paper.
16 oct à 22 h 20
#17
Vegan Commie Hipster
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Bahahahaha. My gosh. Okay folks. Let’s hear him out. Clearly, this is absolutely insane, so why not give us your logic. Maybe you’ll talk us into what looks like a dumpster fire.


Can you first explain why you think it's okay to be so haughty? That's the much bigger issue here. Yeesh. Wayyy too much of that on this site. Not great bob.

Not saying it's an overly good Agm given everything. It might be the Brandon Carlo of AGMs. Definitely unique, I'd personally say it's sketchy at worst.

So. Even if Carlo was what you suggest he is a good 2 way 40 point center with a 1st & 2nd is a pretty good return in general. Why do you feel he's so good?
16 oct à 22 h 37
#18
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: Radu47
Can you first explain why you think it's okay to be so haughty? That's the much bigger issue here. Yeesh. Wayyy too much of that on this site. Not great bob.

Not saying it's an overly good Agm given everything. It might be the Brandon Carlo of AGMs. Definitely unique, I'd personally say it's sketchy at worst.

So. Even if Carlo was what you suggest he is a good 2 way 40 point center with a 1st & 2nd is a pretty good return in general. Why do you feel he's so good?


Because i watch him play. Hockey. Not spread sheets.
17 oct à 0 h 29
#19
Vegan Commie Hipster
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
I think Carlo did a fair amount of carrying krug too. More to the point, why is boston trading their top end players for picks? Did i miss something?


"Carlo carrying Krug" I just can't even

Carlo's opposite impact/skillset fits well beside him

But by SKATRs Krug is dark blue... Carlo mostly red
17 oct à 0 h 40
#20
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: Radu47
"Carlo carrying Krug" I just can't even

Carlo's opposite impact/skillset fits well beside him

But by SKATRs Krug is dark blue... Carlo mostly red


I don’t care about your graphs.

I watched the games.
 
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