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Stay Away You Sergachev Vultures - Worst Case Scenario

Créé par: CoopsTroops
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 12 oct. 2020
Publié: 13 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This is meant to be a worse case scenario where the Lightning just simply cannot move Johnson.

There's no scenario where Sergachev leaves Tampa. Between Sergy, Cirelli, and Cernak, he is the chosen one.

Roster will be 22. 3RD will be a competition with some options from the AHL or possible free agents.

Cap space with Koekkoek as 3D and Schenn scratched: $487,501
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2875 000 $
1775 000 $
35 000 000 $
1700 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
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1.
TBL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NSH)
2.
TBL
PHI
  1. Coburn, Braydon
Détails additionnels:
Anywhere that needs a veteran 3rd pairing defenseman.
Or retirement.
3.
TBL
MTL
  1. Paquette, Cédric
Détails additionnels:
Quebec man go home.
Or anywhere that needs reliable 4F and PKer.
4.
TBL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (OTT)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
Picks could turn into picks and prospect, prospect, or just picks.
OTT
  1. Cirelli, Anthony [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Trade, not offer sheet.
5.
TBL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
ThAtS mOrE tHaN aN oFfEr ShEeT
Wake up, offer sheets aren't real. If they are, I'll personally come buy you an ice cream.
DET
  1. Cernak, Erik [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Trade, not offer sheet.
I would have said Vancouver, but I am not sure where Cernak would go now.
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NTC
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UFA - 2
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UFA - 7
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NTC
UFA - 5
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NTC
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UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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DG
NMC
UFA - 5
900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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UFA - 8
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UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
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900 000 $900 000 $
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900 000 $900 000 $
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AD, DD
UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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13 oct. 2020 à 1 h 31
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This is hilarious
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13 oct. 2020 à 1 h 32
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This is hilarious


Which part of this ACGM gave me the pleasure of amusing someone who's been around for 3.5 years but only 7 posts?
13 oct. 2020 à 1 h 35
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Quoting: CoopsTroops
Which part do I have pleasure of amusing someone who's been around for 3.5 years but only 7 posts?


Long time lurker, first time sh*ttalker

But maybe genuine lolz at your snarky commentary? Which I also found amusing. Levity ftw 👍
13 oct. 2020 à 1 h 36
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Detroit giving up the potential 1st pick overall for Cernak.

Tampa fans still don't get it after the Johnson waivers debacle.....

Wake up. I want my ice cream now.
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13 oct. 2020 à 1 h 38
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Detroit giving up the potential 1st pick overall for Cernak.

Tampa fans still don't get it after the Johnson waivers debacle.....

Wake up. I want my ice cream now.

Nah, that 1st got lottery protection. Prospect in return more likely anyway, but I'm not in the mood to go through the entire Detroit prospect list and figure out who is fair return for Cernak.

Also, this is worst case. Likelier scenario is Sergachev and Cernak sign team friendly bridge deal and Cirelli is the odd man out.
13 oct. 2020 à 1 h 40
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Detroit giving up the potential 1st pick overall for Cernak.

Tampa fans still don't get it after the Johnson waivers debacle.....

Wake up. I want my ice cream now.


After seeing the Schmidt return, TBL might welcome an offersheet....
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This is hilarious


Schmidt just went for a 2022 3rd. TB is in deeper. Good luck. Maybe Stamkos will be out for a while. Otherwise.....
13 oct. 2020 à 1 h 46
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Heck yes to selling high on Cernak and a pox on the "but he played on a cup team!" shine that occurs

Cirelli for Brannstrom + underrated guys like Abramov/Jarventie would be pretty nifty ultimately

Love that all them are close to NHL ready with even Jarventie dominating mestis and now maybe liiga
13 oct. 2020 à 1 h 48
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I do agree sergachev is the one the will/should keep at all costs. I think they very well could lose cirelli
13 oct. 2020 à 1 h 52
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Nah, that 1st got lottery protection. Prospect in return more likely anyway, but I'm not in the mood to go through the entire Detroit prospect list and figure out who is fair return for Cernak.


Hm though lottery protection seems to be 1 year with rollover to next and they'll be bad next year too with one of the best drafts ever likely on it's way flushed cheeks

I mean I bet there's a way to make it work but

Cernak for Shane Wright git er done!!
13 oct. 2020 à 1 h 54
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Nah, that 1st got lottery protection. Prospect in return more likely anyway, but I'm not in the mood to go through the entire Detroit prospect list and figure out who is fair return for Cernak.
I don't care if it has top 5 protection. Detroit will be drafting in the top 8 almost guaranteed. #6-8 pick > Cernak in the 2021 deep defensive draft. The following year I expect it to be top 10. Top 10 > Cernak. Way too expensive for Tampa's current situation.

Everyone else is right look at the returns on these trades when one team is in cap trouble...it's pennies. You might want an offer sheet on 2 of the 3. But I don't see how you guard against it (save Stamkos LTIR bid)

TB is even worse in cap hell and will need to sell for those pennies on the dollar not premium dollars. The alternative is an offer sheet. While rare I am not sure they haven't been presented to those 3 already. Their agent is probably using them as leverage to BriseBois right now saying we'll sign them if you don't raise your offer to X amount.

No one sees a way out for Tampa not even the highest paid insider...it's a matter of what bad choice they come up with. Not what trade gets them almost equal return on their dollar.

btw: worst case scenario is your players sign those offer sheets and no one with a NTC/NMC waives it---which is kinda where Tampa is reportedly at after the Johnson waivers debacle.
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Damn Yzerman dipped at the right time. He’s what Jon Chyka wants to be
13 oct. 2020 à 2 h 6
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i think pierre dorion has learned his lesson about trading away sens first round picks...
13 oct. 2020 à 2 h 8
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Damn Yzerman dipped at the right time. He’s what Jon Chyka wants to be


It's not terrible, but it's not great. If Volkov can grow into a middle 6 role as coaches expect, the forward situation is decent except for replacing Paquette with Joseph.

For defense: Hedman-Rutta won 3 SCF games, McDonagh would be perfect partner for Foote his rookie season, and Sergachev would have a weak link partner in the worst case scenario, but Cernak still in the likely scenario.
13 oct. 2020 à 2 h 17
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It's not terrible, but it's not great. If Volkov can grow into a middle 6 role as coaches expect, the forward situation is decent except for replacing Paquette with Joseph.

For defense: Hedman-Rutta won 3 SCF games, McDonagh would be perfect partner for Foote his rookie season, and Sergachev would have a weak link partner in the worst case scenario, but Cernak still in the likely scenario.
PROJECTED CAP SPACE $2,895,834
Sergachev, Cirelli, Cernak as RFA will cost 11.5M at least

Untouchables: Kucherov, Hedman, Vasilevskiy, Point
NMC's: Stamkos
NTC's: Palat, Gourde, Johnson, McDonagh, Coburn
MNTC's: Killorn (16 team)

So pretty much everyone making > 2M except Stamkos can't be moved. Why isn't it terrible? Oh, did I add tax advantage state so players don't want to waive. Did I mention SC winning team so players don't want to leave. Did I mention COVID threat so no one wants to uproot families.

...and you're going to play with only 22 on the roster in a year with a very condensed schedule? Good luck on that.
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...and you're going to play with only 22 on the roster in a year with a very condensed schedule? Good luck on that.


You are quite the pessimist. There's at least 5 forwards who can be called up and play a few games during the year. Katchouk is on ELC and no one is going to claim Schenn if he's the 7th D or lower.
13 oct. 2020 à 3 h 35
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PROJECTED CAP SPACE $2,895,834
Sergachev, Cirelli, Cernak as RFA will cost 11.5M at least

Untouchables: Kucherov, Hedman, Vasilevskiy, Point
NMC's: Stamkos
NTC's: Palat, Gourde, Johnson, McDonagh, Coburn
MNTC's: Killorn (16 team)

So pretty much everyone making > 2M except Stamkos can't be moved. Why isn't it terrible? Oh, did I add tax advantage state so players don't want to waive. Did I mention SC winning team so players don't want to leave. Did I mention COVID threat so no one wants to uproot families.

...and you're going to play with only 22 on the roster in a year with a very condensed schedule? Good luck on that.


Woah this is the Tampa bay lightning you’re talking about here, the most dominate Stanley cup champion I believe in the last decade. They breezed through every team. They don’t even need 20 skaters bro. Just the first two lines, our top two d pairs and Vasy. Every team they face will be picking up their jock straps and your gitch will be on your head the rest of the season
13 oct. 2020 à 4 h 42
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Detroit and Ottawa are not giving up first round picks for the foreseeable future. Especially not to Tampa for those players. The league knows your troubles you have to pay to get out of them. Why you think nobody claimed Johnson. He’s a good player that just won a cup.
 
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