That Reinhart contract seems a bit much. That's better than the Nylander deal.

Sharks dont really need a pile of stuff for Burns but im sure this deal could be trimmed down to make sense.

I figured it would balance out the d and give them some RFA options to sign or trade, i figure you'll need to replace burns in some way and millers got a hard shot and can log some minutes behind karlson, Mccabe has moments and only 1 year at reasonable money. I didn't want to send salary back either, trying to keep my picks too. Maybe a different prospect besides kahun.

Hopefully he signs for less but unless its 1 year we'll probably have to over pay a bit.

We need offensive talent more than defensive, this has me not hating it but we would have to tweet it a tad not sure how just yet

Yeah... take all those pieces out. Montour for burns and Lebanc should be close.

Screw that thatsca hard no

I don't think Burns waives for Buffalo, but if he'd be willing, this trade could be pretty decent with some revisions and simplifications.

No no you forgot that Burns actually has negative value on this site - Like he's worse than Loui Eriksson...and Milan Lucic.

His contract does. If they can get anything for burns (I don’t think they can anymore) they should. It isn’t just burns. It’s a long list of money tied up for years with players on the wrong side of 30. I believe it will be nearly half the cap after next year.

*edit just checked it’s about 48m. Yikes.

I mean he doesn't have negative value in a holistic sense. The only bad thing about his contract is the term which is just flat out bad. The 8M was warranted at the time and I'd argue he'll still be worth something like that for another 2-3 years. The problem isn't so much that he has garbage value, it's that with the flat cap most other teams probably can't afford him without sending back salary to SJ. But that wouldn't be such an issue for us without his M-NTC. That's the real killer of his contract.

He is okay for now. His lack of defence has gotten worse lately. Just my opinion. He’s worth 7m right now. But he is signed for another 5 years. I see it as montour for Labanc and they take that contract off your hands. To be honest I don’t think it’s a horrible idea.


Not sure if you saw my edit but after next season it is over 47m in players over 30. 40m of that is just plain bad contract. 7m to Kane isn’t great but it’s not as bad as the rest.

All this for a team that needs to rebuild... and has only the latest first round pick.

It's not a horrible idea but it's also not a great one imo. Burns definitely isn't worth nothing. His defense has gotten worse, there's no denying that, but you have to take into account that he was playing under Deboer's defensively garbage system which didn't help. Not saying he's good defensively by any means, but it looks worse than it is in reality. That and I think he's capable of being a 50-60 point guy for at least another couple of years. Labanc's value is definitely superior to that or Montour's which kind of negates the point of doing a "swap". We need someone that can pair well with Vlasic on the second pair and quite frankly I'm not sure Montour has the right play style to do so well and bring the best out Vlasic. Yeah this team has a ridiculous amount of players over 30 that will get paid a stupid amount of money, but that's exactly why we can't rebuild. Yes it would probably be the best way to actually come back to relevance and really compete in 3-5 years, but Wilson has already put all of his eggs in one basket and he isn't just gonna pull the plug at this point. As frustrating as it is, tearing it down isn't an option at this point so we have to make due with what we have. Shipping guys like Couture and Burns out, I think, would be a good start to at least ensure our future isn't entirely f*cked, but like I said, Wilson has already dug himself a hole and he's unlikely to move either of them at this point because he's too stubborn. I dunno we'll see how this pans out. You're point is valid though.

Kane is a consistent 30 goal scoring hard hitting power forward!! Why does everyone hate him? I seriously do t get it he is so valuable to us.

Yeah, the Isles don't make that deal. We wouldn't give up our top pairing LD for Ristolainen.

If he changes Pelech to Mayfield I'd say deal.

I don't think so. Aside from their offensive potential, they're similar players. There's no reason to add more salary to our D corps either when that's most likely the area where we're going to be trimming from. Mayfield plays top 4 minutes, kills penalties, and makes dirt cheap money for longer. He's the perfect stop gap for when Dobson is ready for more minutes, and possibly Bode Wilde in a few seasons (if he pans out).

Deal!
I didn't realize pelech was such a big piece thought resigning toews would be prefered. Not that thats the choice but LD seemed like your strong suit.

Ok but your shedding D salary in this deal, the key peice is boychuck, after that i need a reasonably priced 3rd pair left d to hold the fort for my prospects. What about leaving komarov and pelech and adding hickey? My goal is to take salary, get paid a little (ho sang) and see if risto gets his game together under trots. I mean risto wasn't horrible on sabres who have no structure and i wonder if he doesnt look like a stud on a better team that is well coached and can rely on his team mates more.

Not hating on Kane. That’s why I separated his contract out from the rest.

Yeah unfortunately i can't help you there. I can split burns into a d pair, offer some low cost rfa's and hopefully you have enough cap left over to sign some offense. Imo you could sign all 3 rfa's and keep both dmen for same price as leblanc and burns. Kahun's not gonna light up your depth chart but he's better than anyone you have behind leblanc right now. I haven't tried it but with this deal you should have enough to offer hall 9mil and have a full team with a touch of cap left.

As stated above, Pelech is way too important. One of the best kept secrets in the league. I wouldn't say he's untouchable but it is damn close

Ok what do you think of switching him for hickey then? If not is there 1 of your left d that works? As i said i didn't realize pelech was that big for isle. I assumed depth was leddy, toews, hickey, pelech.

We do lose cap here, which I think is key. This would be a loss of $5.05M in cap, that's pretty significant. That and Ristolainen only has two years left on his deal. I'd leave him unprotected to go to Seattle, or he stays and it doesn't impede on Dobson or Wilde's development.



Yup, he's one of the best defensive defensemen in the NHL. It's arguable he has the best stick work in the league.



I'd say he's untouchable. I wouldn't even give him up for one of the elite NHL LHD given how cheap his contract is.

Would 100% switch with Hickey. Order of importance of our LD: Pelech, Toews, Leddy (if he isn't traded), Greene (if he re-signs), Hickey