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Créé par: etpeck
Équipe: 2020-21 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 23 sept. 2020
Publié: 23 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I think this is a deal vegas would strongly consider. This deal allows them to sign Lehner with the 5 mil they ship out. With the down year and still big cap hit, Vegas will likely still have to add a sweetener to take Fleury. I think the canes would consider taking a chance only Fleury having a bounce back year.

Chicago the value may be way off, I wasnt real sure. I traded gardiner because he is an extra piece for the canes and Chicago could probably use a better puck moving guy behind Keith. Reimer i moved to Chicago because they currently do not have an established goalie on the roster. I am not sure what chicagos plan is there but I thought Reimer could at the least be a stabilizing force. The 1st rounder and Suzuki would get there attention I would expect.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
CAR
  1. Fleury, Marc-André (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Krebs, Peyton
Détails additionnels:
Lehner basically fills the Fleury cap hit
VGK
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
2.
CAR
  1. DeBrincat, Alex
CHI
  1. Gardiner, Jake
  2. Reimer, James
  3. Suzuki, Ryan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
3.
CAR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (COL)
FLA
  1. Dzingel, Ryan
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2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $76 425 655 $1 367 073 $3 707 500 $5 074 345 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Svechnikov, Andrei
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Aho, Sebastian
8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 4
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Teräväinen, Teuvo
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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DeBrincat, Alex
6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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Trocheck, Vincent
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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Necas, Martin
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 2
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Foegele, Warren
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Staal, Jordan
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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Niederreiter, Nino
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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McGinn, Brock
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Geekie, Morgan
763 333 $763 333 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
C, AD
RFA - 1
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Martinook, Jordan
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Slavin, Jaccob
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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Fleury, Marc-André
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Skjei, Brady
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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Hamilton, Dougie
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Mrázek, Petr
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Bean, Jake
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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Pesce, Brett
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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Fleury, Haydn
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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23 sept. 2020 à 17 h 59
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Chicago declines
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What would need to be changed in the offer?
23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 6
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What would need to be changed in the offer?


We don't want Gardiner (we have Keith, Maatta, De Haan plus a bunch of left handed bottom 2 line prospects), and we don't want Reimer (he sucks), that's a lot of cap hit for players that aren't useful to Chicago. Suzuki is somewhat interesting but he and a late 1st don't get you Cat.
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We don't want Gardiner (we have Keith, Maatta, De Haan plus a bunch of left handed bottom 2 line prospects), and we don't want Reimer (he sucks), that's a lot of cap hit for players that aren't useful to Chicago. Suzuki is somewhat interesting but he and a late 1st don't get you Cat.


I reason I traded you gardiner is because while you gave a few left shot dman you dont have anyone who can move the puck. Maatta and De Haan are both fine but you arent going to get anything offensively out of either. Reimer definitely doesnt suck he was very good for the canes this year. While he may not be a 1, but he is certainly a solid bet for 35-40 games. I would remove reimer and maybe add a 2nd rounder or something if that gets the deal done. Reimer is easy enough to move elsewhere
23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 16
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I reason I traded you gardiner is because while you gave a few left shot dman you dont have anyone who can move the puck. Maatta and De Haan are both fine but you arent going to get anything offensively out of either. Reimer definitely doesnt suck he was very good for the canes this year. While he may not be a 1, but he is certainly a solid bet for 35-40 games. I would remove reimer and maybe add a 2nd rounder or something if that gets the deal done. Reimer is easy enough to move elsewhere


We have Keith, Boqvist and Ian Mitchell who are all puck movers; that's 3 out of 6 defensive positions. Don't want Gardiner but one of Skeji or Slavin makes it interesting of course.

Remier is too expensive for a backup.
23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 17
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Moving Fleury is not going to take Krebs or a 1st especially retaining salary. Vegas rejects easily
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23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 19
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There’s a zero percent chance would even consider moving krebs like that
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23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 23
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We have Keith, Boqvist and Ian Mitchell who are all puck movers; that's 3 out of 6 defensive positions. Don't want Gardiner but one of Skeji or Slavin makes it interesting of course.

Remier is too expensive for a backup.


Certainly wouldnt do slavin i would consider Skjei tho.
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There’s a zero percent chance would even consider moving krebs like that


I really do not see there being a bug market for fleury especially at 7 mil. The krebs idea was just one i had seen several other people post. If vegas were only to retain 1 mil what do you think would be a fair trade. I would also upgrade the 3rd to the canes 2nd this year if need be
23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 28
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I really do not see there being a bug market for fleury especially at 7 mil. The krebs idea was just one i had seen several other people post. If vegas were only to retain 1 mil what do you think would be a fair trade. I would also upgrade the 3rd to the canes 2nd this year if need be


It doesn’t matter what you upgrade, Krebs isn’t going to be moved unless we’re getting back an instant starter at center....

Fleury will be moved, probably with a 3rd team involved. I could see him ending up in Carolina with ANA/DET/OTT retaining salary
23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 30
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It doesn’t matter what you upgrade, Krebs isn’t going to be moved unless we’re getting back an instant starter at center....

Fleury will be moved, probably with a 3rd team involved. I could see him ending up in Carolina with ANA/DET/OTT retaining salary


No i wasnt meaning you had to include Krebs. I was just asking what Vegas sees as a fair offer
23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 33
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No i wasnt meaning you had to include Krebs. I was just asking what Vegas sees as a fair offer


Honestly with how bad the management and coaching staff botched this up if we don’t have to give anything it’ll be a win for us. Now if we have to retain money then we are going to need something back, or more than likely involve a third team
23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 49
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Honestly with how bad the management and coaching staff botched this up if we don’t have to give anything it’ll be a win for us. Now if we have to retain money then we are going to need something back, or more than likely involve a third team


Yeah i really dont see that happening honeslty. If another team is going to retain salary someone is going to have to pay for that. Personally I think the canes are interested in Fleury at 5 mil but i dont see them wanting to give up much for it.
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23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 51
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Yeah i really dont see that happening honeslty. If another team is going to retain salary someone is going to have to pay for that. Personally I think the canes are interested in Fleury at 5 mil but i dont see them wanting to give up much for it.


With your defense infront of him, he’d be very very good
23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 53
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With your defense infront of him, he’d be very very good


Yeah i agree with that he could be good. Its also possible that he is over the hill. I would be willing to take the chance on Fleury but like i said i would not give up a ton for it.
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Yeah i agree with that he could be good. Its also possible that he is over the hill. I would be willing to take the chance on Fleury but like i said i would not give up a ton for it.

Love a Fleury for Fleury lol
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Love a Fleury for Fleury lol


Yeah i do not think thats going to happen lol.
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23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 59
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Moving Fleury is not going to take Krebs or a 1st especially retaining salary. Vegas rejects easily


This, one-thousand times over.......
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This, one-thousand times over.......


Yeah it was just an offer i had seen elsewhere. What do you think a fair offer is for Fleury? It is a cap dump for vegas
 
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