Flames Moves ARI and PHI

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Créé par: nomad

Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary

Date de création initiale: 9 sept. 2020

Publié: 9 sept. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

For Arizona, they have been rumored to be willing to part with Kuemper in need of top 6 forwards. Mangiapane is young and solidified himself as a top 6 forward with room to improve. Rittich is not at the caliber of Kuemper, but was an All-Star goalie that would be a great 1B or a decent 1A with Raanta - and is much cheaper than Kuemper. Calgary gets a chance to sign Hall before free agency which allows them to confidently trade Gaudreau know they have his replacement.

With Philly, I suspect they won't love this trade, but neither do Flames fans, so it could be fair value. Gaudreau is the better player and on a great contract. He will also resign with Philly at a discount. Myers is a RD that calgary needs, and Kylington has tons of potential but is just buried on the left side in Calgary. The picks are to balance things out, but could be changed or omitted as people see fit.

As a flames fan, I would also be looking for trades for Ryan to unload some salary and bring in a less expensive 4C, freeing up some money for a #6 RD.

Philly and ARI fans - is the value close?
Flames fans? Are we any better?

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Gawdin, Glenn	2	790 000 $
Kirkland, Justin	2	725 000 $
Nielsen, Andrew	2	725 000 $
Parsons, Tyler	2	775 000 $
Schneider, Nick	2	725 000 $
Myers, Philippe	2	3 500 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Hall, Taylor	7	6 750 000 $
Brossoit, Laurent	3	1 500 000 $
Rieder, Tobias	3	1 100 000 $

Transactions

CGY

Kuemper, Darcy

Détails additionnels:

Rights to Hall

ARI

Mangiapane, Andrew [Droits de RFA]
Rittich, David

CGY

Konecny, Travis
Myers, Philippe [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (PHI)

PHI

Gaudreau, Johnny
Kylington, Oliver [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (SJS)

Rachats de contrats

Troy Brouwer: 1 500 000 $
Michael Stone: 1 166 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	73 293 332 $	0 $	1 372 500 $	8 206 668 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hall, Taylor 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Monahan, Sean 6 375 000 $6 375 000 $ C, AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 3	Konecny, Travis 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 5
Tkachuk, Matthew 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AD UFA - 2	Backlund, Mikael 5 350 000 $5 350 000 $ C NTC UFA - 4	Lindholm, Elias 4 850 000 $4 850 000 $ C, AD UFA - 4
Lucic, Milan 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 3	Bennett, Sam 2 550 000 $2 550 000 $ C UFA - 1	Dubé, Dillon 778 333 $778 333 $ (32 500 $$32K) AG, AD, C RFA - 1
Rieder, Tobias 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Ryan, Derek 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Ruzicka, Adam 801 666 $801 666 $ (65 000 $$65K) AG, C UFA - 2
	Gawdin, Glenn 790 000 $790 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Giordano, Mark 3 375 000 $3 375 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersson, Rasmus 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DD UFA - 6
Hanifin, Noah 1 237 500 $1 237 500 $ DG UFA - 4	Myers, Philippe 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3
Välimäki, Juuso 894 166 $894 166 $ (425 000 $$425K) DG RFA - 1		Kuemper, Darcy 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 2
Mackey, Connor 925 000 $925 000 $ (425 000 $$425K) DG UFA - 1	Yelesin, Alexander 925 000 $925 000 $ (425 000 $$425K) DD RFA - 1	Brossoit, Laurent 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ G UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Hall, T.		Monahan, S.		Tkachuk, M.
	Lindholm, E.		Giordano, M.

Avantage numérique 2
Dubé, D.		Bennett, S.		Konecny, T.
	Andersson, R.		Myers, P.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Rieder, T.	Backlund, M.
	Giordano, M.	Andersson, R.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Ryan, D.	Lindholm, E.
	Hanifin, N.	Yelesin, A.

9 sept. 2020 à 2 h 36

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Hall's not signing for under 7M...

nomad a aimé ceci.

9 sept. 2020 à 2 h 42

nomad

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Generally I would agree, but with Treliving having a reputation as a solid contract negotiation, Hall wanting to play in Calgary (rumored), and a flat cap over the next few years, around 7 seems possible on the longer 7 year term I used. With a Ryan trade we could afford Hall up to 7,500,000 but I'd likely shave a year or two off the term if that was the case.

9 sept. 2020 à 3 h 18

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: nomad

Treliving has a reputation for negotiating with RFA's not UFA's. Also what's the point in trading for Hall's rights?

If you are going to respond to someone hit the "reply" button otherwise they don't get notified.

9 sept. 2020 à 3 h 40

Alfie11

Rejoint: août 2020

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I like the look of this team, but I would deal Ryan, just anywhere for a pick. Hall will make minimum 7.5. I was told by an Arizona fan the ask for Kuemper was 1st + B prospect. I think it might be a better idea to do that, and bridge Mangiapane for 1-2 years. We can find another trade partner for Rittich and get a pick. For a backup I’d rather trade a 3rd to Ottawa for Nilsson at half retained (1.3mil), Brossoit is pretty bad. Not sure if all this works out cap wise (mental math is telling me we can sign Mangiapane to a 2yr 2.5mil bridge deal if we decrease Rieder to 800k and run a 22-man roster, is that right?) but keeping Mangiapane would be better if possible, it would mean Lindholm can slide to 2C, which gives us crazy C depth. Might also make Backlund expendable but I don’t want to get into that lol

9 sept. 2020 à 6 h 55

ALitteral

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Flyers are light on RW, incredibly shallow on RHD and have 6 NHL caliber LW on the current roster... so yeah, we don’t live the trade. It doesn’t help us fill any roster hole but creates two new ones.

9 sept. 2020 à 20 h 20

mulletmario7

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Quoting: ALitteral

Yea I kinda feel like with the contract they gave TK they won't move him. I have a feeling its farabee/frost that goes in a gaudreau trade

13 sept. 2020 à 0 h 27

nomad

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Quoting: mulletmario7

Yea I kinda feel like with the contract they gave TK they won't move him. I have a feeling its farabee/frost that goes in a gaudreau trade

That does make sense. If it's Farabee (preferred over Frost) then likely would need another smaller add. With that said, I think Calgary has be careful not to go quantity over quality. We need at least 1 quality piece and some futures for Gaudreau for the trade to be considered a success. Not convinced Philly is the best trade partner, but we all know that's where he'd like to end up!

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