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Crazy Trades

Créé par: CD282
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 31 août 2020
Publié: 2 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Cap space is going to be in very short supply this off season, and some of the teams with cap space will have internal budgets that will keep their spending well short of the $81.5M upper limit. This will result in some players - especially the marquee free agents - signing for less money and term than we would otherwise expect. Because the cap will be kept artificially flat for the next 2-3 years, I wouldn't be surprised if these players took lower dollar short-term deals to play on contending teams and then look to cash in on those results when the cap rises significantly. That's the premise of this AGM.

The trades are meant to be semi-realistic, just-for-fun moves. Don't get your knickers in a knot if a pick has to be added this way or retention that way.

The Athanasiou signing is a little low, but more in line with the season he just had. I chose $1.9M because that was all I had left! I could've traded him and then promoted Benson, but chose to go this route instead.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3700 000 $
31 000 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 750 000 $
2800 000 $
11 900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
37 000 000 $
37 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Holloway, Dylan
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Neal, James (1 750 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
NJ is desperate for a sniper and can't attract any decent UFA's. At $4M per season, James Neal is worth taking a swing at.
2.
EDM
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (TBL)
OTT
  1. Russell, Kris
Détails additionnels:
Ottawa gives up the most shots in the league, Kris Russell blocks the most shots in the league. Well, top-3 in the past 3 years... his salary is just $1.5M next season too, which is attractive to Melnyk.
3.
EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
MTL
  1. Chiasson, Alex
Détails additionnels:
The usual cap dump. Decent bottom sixer and net-front PP guy.
4.
WPG
  1. Nurse, Darnell
Détails additionnels:
WPG strengthens their top-4 by cashing in a winger. Nurse was 5th in the league in controlled entries last year, 5th in controlled entries with scoring chance afterwards and 5th in controlled zones exits. Over the past 3 years he is 7th in 5v5 points, tied with Victor Hedman. He doesn't suck.
5.
EDM
  1. Dewar, Connor
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Kassian, Zack
Détails additionnels:
Kassian is 77th in the league in 5v5 goals scored over the past 2 years, tied with Malkin, Barzal, Giroux, Dadonov, Forsberg, Landeskog, Bergeron and JT Miller. He also adds size and physicality, although he's somewhat inconsistent in that regard. An imperfect player but he has size, speed and skill and is an absolute load when he's on his game. Easily a top-6 player on just about any team when he's playing well, a great coaching staff might be able to get that out of him more often. He isn't getting paid like a top-6 guy either, his $3.2M is 195th in the league among forwards, putting him in the 3rd line range. Decent value for a player who can play 1st line when he's ON and play 3rd line when he's not.
6.
EDM
  1. Jones, Max
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
ANA
  1. Benning, Matthew [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Does this need an explanation? Benning is a good player and I like him, he just doesn't have a roster spot anymore with Bouchard pushing from the AHL.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $81 817 699 $341 534 $230 000 $-317 699 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
875 000 $875 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
915 000 $915 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
700 000 $700 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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2 sept. 2020 à 8 h 54
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Not sure the Jets accept ngl
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OTT declines. You have to pay to dump cap
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Nurse doesn’t suck but he isn’t worth Ehlers + doesn’t have a nice contract considering he’ll want another huge raise after is 2 years
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Wild don't need more wingers. They decline.
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Nj isn’t desperate for a sniper. They need a sniper but their not winning anytime soon. If I’m trading McLeod to Edmonton it’s gonna be based around Pulijarvi.
Why would NJ give up an asset and take Neal, when they can take a similar or worse contract and take in a really good asset along with it? You’re not getting anything for Neal.
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Quoting: JayTea
Wild don't need more wingers. They decline.


However, if they moved a couple wings in other trades, I would sign off on this deal before the ink dried!
2 sept. 2020 à 9 h 18
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However, if they moved a couple wings in other trades, I would sign off on this deal before the ink dried!


Where would you play him? Down the right side you have Fiala, Zucc, Kunin and Hartman. Hartman is a 4th liner and cheaper, so not worth swapping them. You can argue Kassian is currently better than Kunin, but Kunin is still developing, younger, and can play center in a pinch. Given their lack of center depth, moving Kunin to bring in Kassian is short sighted. Zucc isn't going anywhere and Fiala is obviously not going anywhere. There's no logical place to play Kassian.

You could try him on the left side, but again, Parise, Kaprizov, Greenway, Foligno, and Donato are your options to move there. Donato is probably gone this offseason since Guerin admitted he deserved better and there just isn't a spot for him. Parise isn't going anywhere, Kaprizov will get a shot in the top 6 so do you trade Foligno or Greenway to play Kassian on his offside? Seems silly to me.
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Where would you play him? Down the right side you have Fiala, Zucc, Kunin and Hartman. Hartman is a 4th liner and cheaper, so not worth swapping them. You can argue Kassian is currently better than Kunin, but Kunin is still developing, younger, and can play center in a pinch. Given their lack of center depth, moving Kunin to bring in Kassian is short sighted. Zucc isn't going anywhere and Fiala is obviously not going anywhere. There's no logical place to play Kassian.

You could try him on the left side, but again, Parise, Kaprizov, Greenway, Foligno, and Donato are your options to move there. Donato is probably gone this offseason since Guerin admitted he deserved better and there just isn't a spot for him. Parise isn't going anywhere, Kaprizov will get a shot in the top 6 so do you trade Foligno or Greenway to play Kassian on his offside? Seems silly to me.


I like truculence...a lot...especially when it creates balance to a line, or a team.
You make great points, as always...and it’s clear adding Kassian to the lineup is challenging. In my defense, i did say, “ if they moved a couple wings...”. This is definitely the challenging part. The obvious one, as you mentioned, is Donato. Greenway is a player i would absolutely move...but only for a return worthy of his potential (another challenging endeavor). And of course there are Zuccarello and Parise... trading either or both is almost impossible, but I would trade both, even if it meant a step backwards next year to make giant leaps in a year or two. I know, I know...almost zero chance...

Anyway, I desperately want a Jake Virtanen, a Josh Anderson, a Zach Kassian type player or two in the lineup every night to create balance, protect the skilled guys, and to forecheck the crap out of opposing defensemen.

Who are some left-shot Foligno types I should add to my list?
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Gotta add to the jets trade
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Not sure the Jets accept ngl


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Nurse doesn’t suck but he isn’t worth Ehlers + doesn’t have a nice contract considering he’ll want another huge raise after is 2 years


Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
Gotta add to the jets trade


What needs to be added to the Jets trade, realistically?
3 sept. 2020 à 10 h 39
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What needs to be added to the Jets trade, realistically?


a 2021 first or maybe JP
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a 2021 first or maybe JP


I think the 1st would be a non-starter for Holland, but he could well include JP or another player in the deal. Would the Jets be interested in Matt Benning do you think?
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you rave about Kassian being tied with elite players like Malkin, Barzal etc 5v5 but look who he plays with. Kassian, Chaisson, Maroon all had success with McDavid but that does not make them comparable to the likes of Malkin and Barzal. Kassian is overpaid and has too much term. Holland made a blunder with that signing.....as I am sure you agree since you are trying to move him
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you rave about Kassian being tied with elite players like Malkin, Barzal etc 5v5 but look who he plays with. Kassian, Chaisson, Maroon all had success with McDavid but that does not make them comparable to the likes of Malkin and Barzal. Kassian is overpaid and has too much term. Holland made a blunder with that signing.....as I am sure you agree since you are trying to move him


Just pointing out the facts. People on here seem to think Kassian sucks and is useless and a cap dump, dude is being paid like a 3rd line forward and is far outperforming many elite players when it comes to goal scoring. Sure he plays with McDavid, but he still puts the puck in the net at very high rates in this league. I don't think his contract is too much, it may be a year too long but that's a normal trade-off when paying a guy less than he's producing.

I never once said Kassian was comparable to Malkin or Barzal.

As for trying to move him - cap space is tight and he's not as good as either Ehlers or Yamamoto, and Puljujarvi is showing promise in Finland right now and probably would produce as much as Kassian for 1/3 the cost. There simply isn't any reason to keep Kassian if I can add Hall, Ehlers and Puljujarvi to the top-9.
 
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