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Kreider Trade

Créé par: TheGuyInTheChair
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 24 août 2020
Publié: 24 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Obviously Rangers don't do this because they hate us but I think Kreider would be exactly the type of player Sid needs on his line. He's fast, physical, and can finish. I think that line of Kreider, Sid, and Zucker would be fantastic and it also lets us get Guentzel back with Malkin and Rust. And as far as the Rangers go I think they absolutely win this deal in the long run and maybe in the short term too if Kreider's production falls off a cliff
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  1. McCann, Jared [Droits de RFA]
  2. Poulin, Samuel
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  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
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Is this too much to give up Chicago fans? Should we take Seabrook back to even it out?
CHI
  1. Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]
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24 août 2020 à 18 h 58
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Rangers accept. To make it more realistic, take out Poulin and throw in Jack Johnson.
24 août 2020 à 18 h 59
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Haha, I appreciate the comment in the Hawks trade.
TheGuyInTheChair a aimé ceci.
24 août 2020 à 18 h 59
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Rangers accept. To make it more realistic, take out Poulin and throw in Jack Johnson.


For sure.... you guys have Laffy and PANARIN for LWs....
24 août 2020 à 19 h 0
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Rangers accept. To make it more realistic, take out Poulin and throw in Jack Johnson.


I'd assume for the Rangers to trade us Kreider it'd probably have to be an overpay. Although I did consider a Johnson for Smith or Staal swap
24 août 2020 à 19 h 6
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For sure.... you guys have Laffy and PANARIN for LWs....


That's why I accept
24 août 2020 à 19 h 8
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I'd assume for the Rangers to trade us Kreider it'd probably have to be an overpay. Although I did consider a Johnson for Smith or Staal swap


New York Rangers
- C Jared McCann
- C Filip Hallander
- 2020 1st-round pick
- D Jack Johnson ( $750K retained)
- C Nick Bjugstad
Pittsburgh Penguins
- LW Chris Kreider
- D Brendan Smith
- D Yegor Rykov
- 2021 4th-round pick (OTT)
24 août 2020 à 19 h 12
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I like it, kreider might waive too because he played with dumo in college
24 août 2020 à 19 h 14
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24 août 2020 à 19 h 15
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I like it, kreider might waive too because he played with dumo in college


That was what like ten years ago? And if they trade him before the playoffs end doesn't that mean he doesn't have a NMC?
24 août 2020 à 19 h 17
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
New York Rangers
- C Jared McCann
- C Filip Hallander
- 2020 1st-round pick
- D Jack Johnson ( $750K retained)
- C Nick Bjugstad
Pittsburgh Penguins
- LW Chris Kreider
- D Brendan Smith
- D Yegor Rykov
- 2021 4th-round pick (OTT)


I'd do it. Might even be able to put Smith on the 4th line since he might actually hit someone
24 août 2020 à 19 h 17
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I love the sarcasm in the Chicago trade 😂. I was just talking to a buddy the other day that the pens should look at Kreider. I was talking Kreider for Hornqvist straight up. Since the rangers already have 2 top 6 LW, this will give them a righty on the right side. Plus Hornqvists contract ends in 3 years when Lafreniere and I believe Zibenijad will be up for contracts. So they’d have 6.5 million in room.

Just want to clarify. The reason I wouldn’t give up a ton like in this trade is because Kreiders contract is going to be horrible in a few years. Plus he has similar production to what Hornqvist is putting up now even at his age.
24 août 2020 à 19 h 22
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That was what like ten years ago? And if they trade him before the playoffs end doesn't that mean he doesn't have a NMC?


I think his current contract has one, an 11 team no-trade
24 août 2020 à 19 h 23
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Quoting: Pensfan89
I love the sarcasm in the Chicago trade 😂. I was just talking to a buddy the other day that the pens should look at Kreider. I was talking Kreider for Hornqvist straight up. Since the rangers already have 2 top 6 LW, this will give them a righty on the right side. Plus Hornqvists contract ends in 3 years when Lafreniere and I believe Zibenijad will be up for contracts. So they’d have 6.5 million in room.


I think they're gonna have trouble moving Hornqvist since he's coming into his mid 30s, has already had a lot of injuries and the way he plays he's definitely gonna get more, and I don't think anyone's gonna be fooled by his increased production this year. He's 5 foot 11 and less than 200 pounds and is routinely getting hammered by 6 foot 3 defenseman and if he's not at the front of the net there's not much else he can do. Guys who rely on physical play usually decline heavily in their mid 30s and I think he's well overdue. We'd probably be able to get a 3rd for him but definitely not Kreider. And I LOVE Hornqvist. The guy is a ****ing viking warrior and is the soul of this team but his contract is gonna be awful in two years and I think we should move him now before its too late. It'll be a sad day but it'd be for the best
24 août 2020 à 19 h 30
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I think they're gonna have trouble moving Hornqvist since he's coming into his mid 30s, has already had a lot of injuries and the way he plays he's definitely gonna get more, and I don't think anyone's gonna be fooled by his increased production this year. He's 5 foot 11 and less than 200 pounds and is routinely getting hammered by 6 foot 3 defenseman and if he's not at the front of the net there's not much else he can do. Guys who rely on physical play usually decline heavily in their mid 30s and I think he's well overdue. We'd probably be able to get a 3rd for him but definitely not Kreider. And I LOVE Hornqvist. The guy is a ****ing viking warrior and is the soul of this team but his contract is gonna be awful in two years and I think we should move him now before its too late. It'll be a sad day but it'd be for the best


I mean he only had the one bad year last year. This year he was back to his normal self. He’s usually in that 40-55 point range and he was on pace for that again this year and that’s with being pushed to a bottom 6 role. I know we wouldn’t get Kreider for him, I was just saying it would make sense for both teams. Pens get a bit younger and faster but take on a longer contract that is going to be rough in like 5 years. Rangers will get out of that deal in time now for when their big players are gonna need big contracts. And Hornqvist contract being bad in 2 years will be of no consequence really cause he’d only have a year left on it anyway. I think he’d probably get traded out west (maybe a Nashville reunion) if he gets traded at all.
24 août 2020 à 19 h 37
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Quoting: Pensfan89
I mean he only had the one bad year last year. This year he was back to his normal self. He’s usually in that 40-55 point range and he was on pace for that again this year and that’s with being pushed to a bottom 6 role. I know we wouldn’t get Kreider for him, I was just saying it would make sense for both teams. Pens get a bit younger and faster but take on a longer contract that is going to be rough in like 5 years. Rangers will get out of that deal in time now for when their big players are gonna need big contracts. And Hornqvist contract being bad in 2 years will be of no consequence really cause he’d only have a year left on it anyway. I think he’d probably get traded out west (maybe a Nashville reunion) if he gets traded at all.


I don't know maybe I'm overly pessimistic about how much he's gonna decline. I'd definitely rather see him succeed and us keep him than have to trade him but if he isn't playing with Sid or Geno and for whatever reason Sullivan doesn't want him on the power play his production is gonna go down. And considering how bad our 3rd line was against Montreal I'm not thinking he's gonna have a good year next year
24 août 2020 à 19 h 38
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Just give them like, idk, a 2nd?
24 août 2020 à 20 h 0
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Poulin is going to be $$. Built like Crosby. Strong kid.

Its a good trade in my eyes
 
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