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Créé par: WCSF

Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo

Date de création initiale: 17 août 2020

Publié: 17 août 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

There have been rumours over the past months that the Sabres covet Monahan and/or Gaudreau. They also have a hole on left defence. A trade of this size is obviously highly unlikely. This is just an exercise in:

1.) Gauging value. Are the Sabres giving up enough in this scenario or does it fall short value-wise?
2.) Are the Sabres parting with two much futures in Cozens and 8th O/A in 2020?
3.) Could the Sabres make this work cap-wise? It looks like it could work for 20/21. In 21/22 they would need to move Risto or Miller and likely one other vet contract in order to get Dahlen, Jokiharju and other RFA's signed.
4.) Would this make the Sabres not just a playoff team but a contender? There is a huge question mark in net. There is a lack of grit up front and perhaps insufficient depth after line 3 (though Mittlestadt, Asplund and Ruotsalainen could contribute). As desperate as the Sabres are to get in the playoffs, this isn't a trade you make just to be "competitive" for a playoff spot.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Johansson, Jonas	1	825 000 $
Kahun, Dominik	3	2 750 000 $
Lazar, Curtis	1	800 000 $
Mittelstadt, Casey	1	1 000 000 $
Olofsson, Victor	3	4 250 000 $
Thompson, Tage	1	1 000 000 $
Ullmark, Linus	3	2 750 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Larsson, Johan		3	2 500 000 $

Transactions

BUF

Gaudreau, Johnny
Hanifin, Noah
Monahan, Sean
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (EDM)

CGY

Cozens, Dylan
Johnson, Ryan [Liste de réserve]
Montour, Brandon [Droits de RFA]
Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BUF)

Rachats de contrats

Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	79 180 833 $	1 487 500 $	3 487 500 $	2 319 167 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Gaudreau, Johnny 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Eichel, Jack 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ C UFA - 6	Olofsson, Victor 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Skinner, Jeff 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 7	Monahan, Sean 6 375 000 $6 375 000 $ C, AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 3	Thompson, Tage 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ C UFA - 3
Johansson, Marcus 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Larsson, Johan 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Kahun, Dominik 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 1
Smith, C.J. 700 000 $700 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Lazar, Curtis 800 000 $800 000 $ AD, C UFA - 2	Okposo, Kyle 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 3
	Dea, Jean-Sébastien 700 000 $700 000 $ C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Dahlin, Rasmus 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 850 000 $$3M) DG/DD UFA - 1	Jokiharju, Henri 925 000 $925 000 $ (637 500 $$638K) DD RFA - 1	Ullmark, Linus 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Hanifin, Noah 1 237 500 $1 237 500 $ DG UFA - 4	Ristolainen, Rasmus 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Hutton, Carter 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ G UFA - 1
McCabe, Jake 2 850 000 $2 850 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Miller, Colin 3 875 000 $3 875 000 $ DD UFA - 2
	Borgen, William 864 166 $864 166 $ DD UFA - 1

17 août 2020 à 22 h 27

flamesfan

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Hahahahahahaha is what the flames say when they see this after their done laughing they block buffalos number. The flames reject this garbage trade so fast it is horrible for Calgary

17 août 2020 à 22 h 28

Shibbal18

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Quoting: flamesfan

Hahahahahahaha is what the flames say when they see this after their done laughing they block buffalos number. The flames reject this garbage trade so fast it is horrible for Calgary

Sabres easily reject this, this is robbery

17 août 2020 à 22 h 29

ItWasIn

CGY

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Wow that would be a massive trade

17 août 2020 à 22 h 32

flamesfan

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Sabres easily reject this, this is robbery

Sabers get an 80 point center, a 100 point left winger and a solid top 4 defensmen for a 60-70 point player, an ok top 4 defensmen and a bunch of maybes. Anyone who this this is good for the flames have never watched a hockey game before and clearly aren’t a hockey fan

17 août 2020 à 22 h 41

Shibbal18

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Quoting: flamesfan

Gaudreau (2 years left) and Monohan (3 years left) fell off this year, Hanafin = Montour despite you trying to word it in your favor. So Buffalo gives up a 60-70 point RW under RGA control for up to 8 years, a RFA dman thats opposite handed from the one youre trading - thats a wash, then a top 5 prospect in the league currently, one of the best d prospects in the league currently and 8 OA, for 2 years of Gaudreau and 3 years of Monahan playing in a lesser role - so we would see a decline in production, both may be declining and will want way too much to stay. Complete joke for Buffalo

17 août 2020 à 22 h 46

flamesfan

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Montour is 26 Hanifin is 23 so maybe they are the same skill wise right now Hanifin is 3 years younger. Also there’s a thing called resigning I wouldn’t expect a non hockey fan such as yourself to know what that is but that means when a players contract is over he can get resigned by the same team. Flames are in a win now mode so they wouldn’t do this trade. Learn something about hockey before posting please

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17 août 2020 à 22 h 58

GenXHockey

Formerly Jamiepo

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Quoting: flamesfan

Quoting: Shibbal18

Quoting: ItWasIn

Wow that would be a massive trade

Let me help solve this... this trade is bad both ways.... not to mention blowing up your roster.

There is a smaller trade that could fit both ways. Would involve montour going to the flames but flames don’t have the pieces (or wouldn’t want to give them up). Would have to be a package of futures for buffalo to flip, or a 3 way.

17 août 2020 à 22 h 59

Tjm220

Sabres fan

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Quoting: flamesfan

Hanifin may be better than Montour but this trade doesn’t make any sense for Buffalo any more than it does for Calgary. Insulting someone else’s intelligence doesn’t mean you are smarter than they are.

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17 août 2020 à 23 h 0

BurnEmUp

Yeah Baby

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Sabres take that and run. They actually have a chance to make some noise during Eichel's reign in Buffalo for once.

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17 août 2020 à 23 h 30

#10

Shibbal18

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Quoting: flamesfan

I addressed resigning. Ill make it easy because reading is hard

Quoting: Shibbal18

for 2 years of Gaudreau and 3 years of Monahan playing in a lesser role - so we would see a decline in production, both may be declining and will want way too much to stay.

Its a terrible deal for Buffalo

17 août 2020 à 23 h 35

#11

flamesfan

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Quoting: Tjm220

Prove that is doesn’t make me smarter. I’ll bet you can’t

18 août 2020 à 1 h 47

#12

Tjm220

Sabres fan

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Quoting: flamesfan

Prove that is doesn’t make me smarter. I’ll bet you can’t

Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

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18 août 2020 à 7 h 12

#13

SabresSuck9

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Any trade that involves Cozens is a joke. We haven't even seen him play in a Buffalo uniform. Hes been rated the top prospect in all of hockey I believe when they did their end of the year rankings. I would not give up on that, i dont care who it would bring in. Hes cost controlled for so many years and lets watch him turn into that Mark Schieffle type of player.

18 août 2020 à 9 h 53

#14

royle9

look good play good

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Classic case of overvaluing "maybes and picks" once again by Buffalo fans.
Buffalo would be STUPID to not take this and run.

CGY would be STUPID to do this and roll the dice on the unknowns + Sam.
Trade is so far from realistic its brought out the best in everyone here lmao.

18 août 2020 à 10 h 47

#15

flamesfan

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Quoting: Tjm220

Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

You didn’t prove anything you just said some stupid quote.

18 août 2020 à 11 h 14

#16

Tjm220

Sabres fan

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Quoting: flamesfan

You didn’t prove anything you just said some stupid quote.

I believe you have already proven my point. Calling everyone else an idiot does not prove you are smart at all.

18 août 2020 à 11 h 17

#17

flamesfan

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Quoting: Tjm220

I believe you have already proven my point. Calling everyone else an idiot does not prove you are smart at all.

How does that prove anything?

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