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Créé par: Scuderi4Daley
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 14 août 2020
Publié: 14 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Trades-
Matt Murray to Minnesota seems too predictable with Guerin coming out and criticizing his goaltending as well as his relationship with JR. Whether he should still have this much value or not, I still see Murray fetching a decent pick and I like Hartman as a guy that would make us a bit harder to play against.
Jarnkrok is a guy who's name I've seen thrown out here a few times and McCann is the type of speed and skill Nashville should be going after, but he was never going to be the 3C here.

There's still a lot of fat to trim off in terms of bad contracts here, but I wouldn't go crazy.
-As bad as JJ is, it's not worth giving up real assets to get off that and everything being reported is that he won't be bought out or buried so hopefully Sully will smarten up and just not play him.
-Bjugstad has been a disaster here but it's not worth dumping him at his lowest point unless your firmly up against the cap. If you get a decent offer, take it, but best case scenario is he stays healthy next year and becomes a decent trade chip or contributor. Worst case he goes back on the IR and he's off the books next year.
-Hornqvist and Letang are older guys with high cap hits but I wouldn't move them now if it's going to make this team worse in short term.

Even though I don't have them in the starting lineup, hopefully either through camp or mid way through next season the young guys like Legare, Poulin, and others push veterans for their spots in the lineup and get rid of the comfortability that seems everyone in the bottom six possesses for no reason.
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  1. Järnkrok, Calle
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
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  1. Hartman, Ryan
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
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  1. Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]
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14 août 2020 à 15 h 59
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I would be in the camp of Jarnkrok > McCann, so I'm not sure why Nashville is adding a 3rd in this deal. Sure, McCann is younger, but that's it.
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14 août 2020 à 16 h 4
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Slight tweak to the Murray trade but I’d want the 2020 2nd round pick more. Short scouting period for next years draft.
14 août 2020 à 16 h 17
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Slight tweak to the Murray trade but I’d want the 2020 2nd round pick more. Short scouting period for next years draft.


Your not going to get it, especially with Rutherford's decision to keep your 1st this year. If we still had the 15th ova then I could see a scenario where it would be the 2020 instead of the 21. This years draft is too good and too deep into the 2nd round for us to consider giving that up with only a single 1st rounder and no 3rd this year.

Instead I'd upgrade the player going back to Pittsburgh to either Greenway or Donato. The Wild have too many LW's and Hartman despite the lower line play is more important and a RHS which we don't have too many of.
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14 août 2020 à 16 h 39
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I would be in the camp of Jarnkrok > McCann, so I'm not sure why Nashville is adding a 3rd in this deal. Sure, McCann is younger, but that's it.


disagree. They had similar production this year and McCann is younger. and Rutherford said he wants our team getting younger so trading McCann for an older Jarnkrok makes no sense
14 août 2020 à 16 h 43
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disagree. They had similar production this year and McCann is younger. and Rutherford said he wants our team getting younger so trading McCann for an older Jarnkrok makes no sense


Jarnkrok has better faceoff numbers, is much better defensively, he has better underlying numbers, they produce points at a similar rate, Jarnkrok will have the better contract, Jarnkrok is a right-handed shot which PIT is very much lacking in their forward group -- the literal only thing that McCann has over JarnKrok is that he is younger. That's it.
14 août 2020 à 16 h 46
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Jarnkrok has better faceoff numbers, is much better defensively, he has better underlying numbers, they produce points at a similar rate, Jarnkrok will have the better contract, Jarnkrok is a right-handed shot which PIT is very much lacking in their forward group -- the literal only thing that McCann has over JarnKrok is that he is younger. That's it.


actually McCann is very solid defensively, so remove that idea from your head. Jarnkrok also maxes out as a 3rd line forward while McCann has top 6 potential. Jarnkrok may be better atm but hes also 4 years older. Ill keep McCann's upside. thanks though
14 août 2020 à 17 h 0
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actually McCann is very solid defensively, so remove that idea from your head. Jarnkrok also maxes out as a 3rd line forward while McCann has top 6 potential. Jarnkrok may be better atm but hes also 4 years older. Ill keep McCann's upside. thanks though


What metrics are you using to support that? He's averaged 0:59 seconds of PK time over the past 3 seasons -- Jarnkrok has 1:52 seconds, nearly double the time of McCann. Jarnkrok also has a better Corsi and Fenwick percentage last season and averaged over the past three seasons. Jarnkrok was also on the ice for 121 GF and 85 GA over the past three seasons compared to McCann who had 119 GF and 106 GA.

Again, he is just younger.
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14 août 2020 à 17 h 9
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What metrics are you using to support that? He's averaged 0:59 seconds of PK time over the past 3 seasons -- Jarnkrok has 1:52 seconds, nearly double the time of McCann. Jarnkrok also has a better Corsi and Fenwick percentage last season and averaged over the past three seasons. Jarnkrok was also on the ice for 121 GF and 85 GA over the past three seasons compared to McCann who had 119 GF and 106 GA.

Again, he is just younger.




I didnt doubt that he is slightly better right now, but Jarnkrok maxes out at as 3rd liner where as McCann has top 6 potential. get that through your head. And dont forget over the last 3 years, over half of it was spent on Florida, a horrible defensive team. Jarnkrok has the luxury of playing in front of one of the best defences in the NHL.
14 août 2020 à 17 h 17
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I didnt doubt that he is slightly better right now, but Jarnkrok maxes out at as 3rd liner where as McCann has top 6 potential. get that through your head. And dont forget over the last 3 years, over half of it was spent on Florida, a horrible defensive team. Jarnkrok has the luxury of playing in front of one of the best defences in the NHL.


Look at Nashville's goaltending this season... the defense didn't matter. Again, McCann is younger so you say he has more potential... but I don't see that. He's played on 3 different teams now and he's only been a bottom 6 forward. Why are teams so quick to move on from him? Those players don't typically develop into legitimate top 6 forwards. We'll see, but I wouldn't bet on it.
14 août 2020 à 17 h 21
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Look at Nashville's goaltending this season... the defense didn't matter. Again, McCann is younger so you say he has more potential... but I don't see that. He's played on 3 different teams now and he's only been a bottom 6 forward. Why are teams so quick to move on from him? Those players don't typically develop into legitimate top 6 forwards. We'll see, but I wouldn't bet on it.


okay, you keep your player and ill keep mine. I would rather roll the dice with McCann. McCanns numbers this year were actually excellent before Pens hit that huge losing streak at the end of the year. He was on a 50+ point pace majority of the season. Thats top 6 numbers.
 
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