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7 août 2020 à 1 h 28
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No one is taking Marner's contract. Nice try Buckeroo
7 août 2020 à 1 h 30
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The Wild are never doing that.
7 août 2020 à 1 h 31
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Quoting: Unbiased_Hawks_Fan
No one is taking Marner's contract. Nice try Buckeroo


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The Wild are never doing that.


Marner would literally be the best player that franchise has ever had. I think they do it in a heartbeat!
7 août 2020 à 1 h 34
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Marner would literally be the best player that franchise has ever had. I think they do it in a heartbeat!


Flat Cap. He's amazing but overpaid. Maybe if he could win a playoff series with all that money, but maybe.
7 août 2020 à 1 h 36
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Flat Cap. He's amazing but overpaid. Maybe if he could win a playoff series with all that money, but maybe.


Dumba and Kaprizov together is about 7 million in cap. So Minnesota is only adding about 4 million for a franchise player.
7 août 2020 à 1 h 40
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Quoting: Darth_Dubious
Dumba and Kaprizov together is about 7 million in cap. So Minnesota is only adding about 4 million for a franchise player.


So they trade a possible star in the making? Plus arguably their second best defenseman? And take on 4 mil in cap, on a team already in a cap crunch.
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7 août 2020 à 1 h 46
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So they trade a possible star in the making? Plus arguably their second best defenseman? And take on 4 mil in cap, on a team already in a cap crunch.


Cap crunch for Minnesota? What are you talking about? They have about 16 million in cap space this offseason with almost all their guys signed. They probably let Galchenyuk walk, and Koivu won't cost a lot. They'd have no problem taking 4 million for a FRANCHISE player. Maybe Kaprizov can be a solid 1st line winger, but he ain't no franchise player, that's for sure lol
7 août 2020 à 1 h 53
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Cap crunch for Minnesota? What are you talking about? They have about 16 million in cap space this offseason with almost all their guys signed. They probably let Galchenyuk walk, and Koivu won't cost a lot. They'd have no problem taking 4 million for a FRANCHISE player. Maybe Kaprizov can be a solid 1st line winger, but he ain't no franchise player, that's for sure lol


Bro wtf qualifies as Franchise to you?
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7 août 2020 à 2 h 7
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Cap crunch for Minnesota? What are you talking about? They have about 16 million in cap space this offseason with almost all their guys signed. They probably let Galchenyuk walk, and Koivu won't cost a lot. They'd have no problem taking 4 million for a FRANCHISE player. Maybe Kaprizov can be a solid 1st line winger, but he ain't no franchise player, that's for sure lol
It is a bad contract. Du(m)bas(s) thought the salary cap would continue rising and that eventually the contract would look good because of that ever inflating cap from the NHLPA. He bet big and was very wrong. Now those top 4 forwards contracts will weigh down the team. It's what is supposed to happen in a cap world--dynasty prevention.

Even if you find a taker for that contract without salary retention...there is no way you are going to get close to equal value in return....other GM's know what Toronto's problem is....no one will bail out Du(m)bas(s). Toronto's core has maybe 2 more years left before the cap will mean having to let guys like Liljegren and Sandin walk if they do nothing. And Toronto is running out of 1st round picks to trade to bail them out in the short-term. Only Tampa and St. Louis are in worst positions. And there are about 9 teams that can help out---1 of which must save room for Cale Makar, Landeskog, and Bowen Byram so they aren't going to take on 10.893M.
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7 août 2020 à 2 h 9
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Bro wtf qualifies as Franchise to you?


Young player that can produce a 100 points in a season
7 août 2020 à 2 h 24
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Young player that can produce a 100 points in a season


lmao no. Franchise players are Crosby, McDavid, Matthews, Kane, Toews etc.
7 août 2020 à 2 h 29
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lmao no. Franchise players are Crosby, McDavid, Matthews, Kane, Toews etc.


Look at the numbers for Kane when he was Marner's age.....you're welcome
7 août 2020 à 2 h 35
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Young player that can produce a 100 points in a season


That's elite. Show me a guy that can lead the league in scoring. A guy that has some hardware in his trophy room. Someone that can help lead his team out of the first round of the playoffs. Franchise player puts the team on their back.
7 août 2020 à 2 h 39
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Look at the numbers for Kane when he was Marner's age.....you're welcome


... Your welcome? Kane became franchise when he made a name for himself in the playoffs. The disrespect from you young man
7 août 2020 à 2 h 40
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Look at the numbers for Kane when he was Marner's age.....you're welcome


Kanes 1st 4 years: 103 goals 200 assists 303 points
Marner 1st 4 years: 83 goals 208 assists 291 points

Kanes 1st 3 years in the playoffs: 20 goals 28 assists 48 points.... 1 Stanley cup win where he had 28 points in 22 games
Marners 1st 3 years in the playoffs: 5 goals 12 assists 17 points

You're welcome. Quiet down now because you look stupid
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Kanes 1st 4 years: 103 goals 200 assists 303 points
Marner 1st 4 years: 83 goals 208 assists 291 points

Kanes 1st 3 years in the playoffs: 20 goals 28 assists 48 points.... 1 Stanley cup win where he had 28 points in 22 games
Marners 1st 3 years in the playoffs: 5 goals 12 assists 17 points

You're welcome. Quiet down now because you look stupid


In season they are easily comparables, get a grip lol

For the playoffs it's different. Chicago's stanley cup teams had a good mix of talent and depth at all positions. The leafs need to fix their defense, and stop blowing 3 geal leads. Not Marner's fault and definitely doesn't exclude him from being a franchise player. You have a problem if you think otherwise.
7 août 2020 à 2 h 51
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In season they are easily comparables, get a grip lol

For the playoffs it's different. Chicago's stanley cup teams had a good mix of talent and depth at all positions. The leafs need to fix their defense, and stop blowing 3 geal leads. Not Marner's fault and definitely doesn't exclude him from being a franchise player. You have a problem if you think otherwise.


You said look at their stats at their comparable ages. And I did. Kane was far more successful. Stop making excuses. You thought you had something, and I showed you how far off you are. Marner cant even make it out of the 1st round lmao meanwhile Kane was raising a cup and had over a ppg in that cup run. Marner not a franchise player..... CONFIRMED
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... Your welcome? Kane became franchise when he made a name for himself in the playoffs. The disrespect from you young man


So you need to make a name for yourself in the playoffs to become a franchise player? Wow, how out of touch are you? Better call Edmonton and let them know McDavid, or call Buffalo that Eichel aren't franchise players.
7 août 2020 à 2 h 56
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You said look at their stats at their comparable ages. And I did. Kane was far more successful. Stop making excuses. You thought you had something, and I showed you how far off you are. Marner cant even make it out of the 1st round lmao meanwhile Kane was raising a cup and had over a ppg in that cup run. Marner not a franchise player..... CONFIRMED



When you're Penguins lose to the Habs, which is far more hilarious than the Leafs losing to Columbus by the way, will Pittsburgh be in the running for a franchise player at the draft? Using your logic I guess not, since Lafreniere hasn't be successful in the playoffs yet lol what a joke.
7 août 2020 à 3 h 1
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When you're Penguins lose to the Habs, which is far more hilarious than the Leafs losing to Columbus by the way, will Pittsburgh be in the running for a franchise player at the draft? Using your logic I guess not, since Lafreniere hasn't be successful in the playoffs yet lol what a joke.


The penguins have something to do with this conversation in what way? lmao. The leafs, unable to make it past the 1st round and have not won the cup in decades is far more hilarious than pittsburgh, who has won multiple cups this past decade. Oh and by the way, Lafreniere's last playoff run, had 23 points 9 goals 14 assists in 13 games. So hes been successful in the playoffs lmao tears of joy Youre claiming a guy is a franchise player and cant make it past round 1 lol youre a different type of stupid
7 août 2020 à 3 h 7
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The penguins have something to do with this conversation in what way? lmao. The leafs, unable to make it past the 1st round and have not won the cup in decades is far more hilarious than pittsburgh, who has won multiple cups this past decade. Oh and by the way, Lafreniere's last playoff run, had 23 points 9 goals 14 assists in 13 games. So hes been successful in the playoffs lmao tears of joy Youre claiming a guy is a franchise player and cant make it past round 1 lol youre a different type of stupid


Just like the other guy I replied to. Better call Edmonton and let them know McDavid, or call Buffalo that Eichel aren't franchise players. Man, how thick in the head can you be?

and if you're ok using Lafreniere's junior playoff points. Marner had 44 point in 18 games, in a single playoff run. So just admit you're wrong, or would you like a shovel to keep digging the hole you're in?
7 août 2020 à 3 h 10
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Just like the other guy I replied to. Better call Edmonton and let them know McDavid, or call Buffalo that Eichel aren't franchise players. Man, how thick in the head can you be?

and if you're ok using Lafreniere's junior playoff points. Marner had 44 point in 18 games, in a single playoff run. So just admit you're wrong, or would you like a shovel to keep digging the hole you're in?


I used his junior playoffs because..... you know.... hes not drafted in the NHL yet. You want to bring up McDavid? We can compare their stats too? Theres not 1 thing that points to Marner being a franchise player
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So you need to make a name for yourself in the playoffs to become a franchise player? Wow, how out of touch are you? Better call Edmonton and let them know McDavid, or call Buffalo that Eichel aren't franchise players.


Ughhhhh there's obviously more too it. Dude you're getting way to heated about this. Just face it Marner isn't franchise. He's not even the best player on his team. It's past both of out bedtimes bud
7 août 2020 à 3 h 37
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You're the one who's changing the narrative here. I'm saying not having playoff success doesn't stupidly disclude you from being a franchise player. I bring up Lafreniere, McDavid, and Eichel as examples of this. Then you try, like an idiot, to bring up Lafreniere's junior playoff stats. Which only hurts your case because Marner has had a better playoff in junior. Now you want to change the narrative and compare McDavid's stat to Marner lol Why not bring up Eichel stats too huh? Only person being stupid here is you. Stop.


Lmao wrong. You said compare Kanes and Marner stats at their ages. So I did. You cried and complained and made excuses because Kane had better stats. Then I explained how successful Kane was in the playoffs and how he is a franchise player because even at a young age, he was winning and one of the main reasons they won. You, being an idiot, brought up Lafreniere for absolutely zero reason. How is he relevant to Marner? Why not bring up Eichel's stats? Well why did you only ask to compare Kanes stats and not Crosbys? hmmmm you continue to look stupid. Again, prove how Marner is a franchise player. I did with Kane. So now, its your turn.... Its fun proving how wrong and how much of a hypocrite you are
7 août 2020 à 3 h 40
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Quoting: Unbiased_Hawks_Fan
Ughhhhh there's obviously more too it. Dude you're getting way to heated about this. Just face it Marner isn't franchise. He's not even the best player on his team. It's past both of out bedtimes bud


Saying "there's obviously more to it" does absolutely nothing. By all means, if Eichel is a franchise player, Marner is too. Look at numbers, look at success, whatever. There's no case that Marner isn't a franchise player if Eichel is one. And you can have more than one franchise player in a team you know. Shall I bring up Draisaitl?
 
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