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The Larkin trade

Créé par: oiler
Publié: 30 mai 2020 à 17 h 28
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 67/186 (36%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a été refusée, car une des équipes excède la limite permise de 23 joueurs sur la formation

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La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 11 187 878 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: -2 196 431 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Mantha, AnthonyRed Wings de DetroitLNH-3 300 000 $111---43162238--
Larkin, DylanRed Wings de DetroitLNH-6 100 000 $111---71193453--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Nugent-Hopkins, RyanOilers d'EdmontonLNH-6 000 000 $111---65223860--
Athanasiou, AndreasOilers d'EdmontonLNH-3 000 000 $111---55111526--
Broberg, PhilipExempté du ballottageOilers d'EdmontonPrêt-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (Logo de Oilers d'EdmontonEDM)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial13 384 309 $24487431112
Variation400 000 $011010
Final13 784 309 $ (↑)2449 (↑)75 (↑)312 (↑)12-2-30

Logo de Oilers d'EdmontonOilers d'Edmonton

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 925 000 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 442 500 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Nugent-Hopkins, RyanOilers d'EdmontonLNH-6 000 000 $111---65223860--
Athanasiou, AndreasOilers d'EdmontonLNH-3 000 000 $111---55111526--
Broberg, PhilipExempté du ballottageOilers d'EdmontonPrêt-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (Logo de Oilers d'EdmontonEDM)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Mantha, AnthonyRed Wings de DetroitLNH-3 300 000 $111---43162238--
Larkin, DylanRed Wings de DetroitLNH-6 100 000 $111---71193453--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial482 500 $2449653412
Variation-400 000 $0-1-10-10
Final82 500 $ (↓)2448 (↓)64 (↓)33 (↓)12235
Do you guys think that this trade would work?
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30 mai 2020 à 18 h 18
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THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN!
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30 mai 2020 à 18 h 20
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More like Athanasiou soon. Eyyy.

Broberg can't be in this deal. RNH is not quite Larkin but they're not Broberg off and If I had to put a prospect of that caliber in, Mantha would come out and I would focus on getting Larkin. for RNH and something. Also AA is not coming back to Det. That ship sailed.
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More like Athanasiou soon. Eyyy.

Broberg can't be in this deal. RNH is not quite Larkin but they're not Broberg off and If I had to put a prospect of that caliber in, Mantha would come out and I would focus on getting Larkin. for RNH and something. Also AA is not coming back to Det. That ship sailed.

Trying to get a young established (home-town soon to be captain) center from a rebuilding team would cost a premium not a soon to be UFA of a lower caliber with a minor add.
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Trying to get a young established (home-town soon to be captain) center from a rebuilding team would cost a premium not a soon to be UFA of a lower caliber with a minor add.


If that was the thought coming out of Det then Edm would simply not consider any deal. RNH is not a joke.
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If that was the thought coming out of Det then Edm would simply not consider any deal. RNH is not a joke.

I never once said RNH is a scrub but he isn’t on Larkin’s level value wise especially considering he’s a soon to be UFA. Trading Larkin would be one of the last things Detroit does in the rebuild.
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I never once said RNH is a scrub but he isn’t on Larkin’s level value wise especially considering he’s a soon to be UFA. Trading Larkin would be one of the last things Detroit does in the rebuild.


I agree Det is never trading Larkin. That was never my point. Larkin was pitched in this deal and I worked in those confines. Just because a player isn't realistically for trade doesn't mean I'm gonna offer the farm for him. I think RNH is closer than people would expect to Larkin and Det would obviously have a plan to sign him if they made any deal for him. So Broberg doesn't go too.
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I agree Det is never trading Larkin. That was never my point. Larkin was pitched in this deal and I worked in those confines. Just because a player isn't realistically for trade doesn't mean I'm gonna offer the farm for him. I think RNH is closer than people would expect to Larkin and Det would obviously have a plan to sign him if they made any deal for him. So Broberg doesn't go too.

So why does Detroit make the deal? The get older, slower, and less productive for a minor add? Trades have to be beneficial to both teams. The Oilers if anything should try to Target someone like Fabbri since their top 2 centers are locked up already.
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So why does Detroit make the deal? The get older, slower, and less productive for a minor add? Trades have to be beneficial to both teams. The Oilers if anything should try to Target someone like Fabbri since their top 2 centers are locked up already.


Detroit doesn't make this deal. As I said. But sometimes you work in the parameters you are given. When a deal is so ridiculous it is beyond logic, I'll say so. When a deal can't happen but doesn't make me blow my brains out, I'll at least talk like it's possible for the sake of people wanting to talk deals. This was that case, again as I said. We agree Larkin doesn't get moved. We agree Edm should target someone else. But the post was for Larkin. so it becomes a what if. and IF there was a deal to be had, I don't think it includes Broberg. If you want to discuss a RNH to Det deal without Larkin, post it.
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Detroit doesn't make this deal. As I said. But sometimes you work in the parameters you are given. When a deal is so ridiculous it is beyond logic, I'll say so. When a deal can't happen but doesn't make me blow my brains out, I'll at least talk like it's possible for the sake of people wanting to talk deals. This was that case, again as I said. We agree Larkin doesn't get moved. We agree Edm should target someone else. But the post was for Larkin. so it becomes a what if. and IF there was a deal to be had, I don't think it includes Broberg. If you want to discuss a RNH to Det deal without Larkin, post it.

We just differ on the value evaluation of Larkin and RNH. I’d say the trade for Larkin would be RNH + Broberg which leaves AA + 3 for Mantha and that’s atrocious. I don’t see Yzerman realistically giving the necessary assets for RNH. Look what a locked up Stepan received a few years ago because he was a mid 50s point center with 4 years of team control. If I was to swing a trade with EDM it would be on the basis of Broberg for a winger (e.g. Bert or Fabbri ++) or to help Holland out with cap dumps for futures.
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We just differ on the value evaluation of Larkin and RNH. I’d say the trade for Larkin would be RNH + Broberg which leaves AA + 3 for Mantha and that’s atrocious. I don’t see Yzerman realistically giving the necessary assets for RNH. Look what a locked up Stepan received a few years ago because he was a mid 50s point center with 4 years of team control. If I was to swing a trade with EDM it would be on the basis of Broberg for a winger (e.g. Bert or Fabbri ++) or to help Holland out with cap dumps for futures.


That's fine. I think RNH is a top 5 two way center in the league. But as we both said, this deal would never happen anyway.
 
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