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Mantha trade

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Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 5 mai 2020
Publié: 5 mai 2020
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  1. Mantha, Anthony [Droits de RFA]
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  1. Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
  2. Fonstad, Cole [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (STL)
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5 mai 2020 à 15 h 44
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I don't think Detroit wants to trade Mantha so its probably a no
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5 mai 2020 à 15 h 46
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And Wings do not want a smaller Domi.
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5 mai 2020 à 15 h 47
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I saw some blurb somewhere about Mantha to MTL, was there something of substance out there or was it click bait?
5 mai 2020 à 15 h 54
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would love to see mantha is a Habs sweater ,but it would start with our 1st rd pick
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5 mai 2020 à 16 h 4
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And Wings do not want a smaller Domi.


Domi is an older less talented version of Larkin and since they have Larkin why would they want Domi?
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5 mai 2020 à 16 h 10
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Sorry but a smurf Domi as the main piece, Sure isn't getting you Anthony Mantha. That deals doesn't even come close to getting you Mantha. Yzerman wil want a high end top 4 LD for Mantha and unless Romanov is involve Mantha to Montreal isn't happening.
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5 mai 2020 à 16 h 11
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Sorry but a smurf Domi as the main piece, Sure isn't getting you Anthony Mantha. That deals doesn't even come close to getting you Mantha. Yzerman wil want a high end top 4 LD for Mantha and unless Romanov is involve Mantha to Montreal isn't happening.


That's fair because I don't see Montreal doing the deal either.
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5 mai 2020 à 16 h 11
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would love to see mantha is a Habs sweater ,but it would start with our 1st rd pick


At the very least, And pieces Bergevin would not surrender. Detroit doesn't want Domi we're trying to get bigger not smaller.
5 mai 2020 à 16 h 11
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would love to see mantha is a Habs sweater ,but it would start with our 1st rd pick


At the very least, And pieces Bergevin would not surrender. Detroit doesn't want Domi we're trying to get bigger not smaller.
5 mai 2020 à 16 h 11
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would love to see mantha is a Habs sweater ,but it would start with our 1st rd pick


At the very least, And pieces Bergevin would not surrender. Detroit doesn't want Domi we're trying to get bigger not smaller.
5 mai 2020 à 16 h 11
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I think with Mantha one of the kids and a high pick has to get involved, especially with Detroit lacking talent one of their top 2 players isnt gonna be cheap.
5 mai 2020 à 16 h 14
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To quote Vince McMahon... No Chance In Hell
5 mai 2020 à 16 h 14
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Domi is an older less talented version of Larkin and since they have Larkin why would they want Domi?


Pretty much sums it up, And Yzerman is known for his big faster teams ans Domi just doesn't fit that pattern.
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Domi is an older less talented version of Larkin and since they have Larkin why would they want Domi?


Pretty much sums it up, And Yzerman is known for his big faster teams ans Domi just doesn't fit that pattern.
5 mai 2020 à 16 h 18
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FWIW Montreal doesn't have a single enticing piece outside of Cole Caufield that would interest Yzerman to deal Mantha. And realistically Mantha for Caufield would be a no go and rightfully so from Bergevins standpoint.
5 mai 2020 à 16 h 29
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I saw some blurb somewhere about Mantha to MTL, was there something of substance out there or was it click bait?


Montreal just doesn't have the pieces that would entice us to move Mantha though, Montreal and Detroit basically have the same needs #2C and top 4 LD. It was already reported by our Wings insider that Yzerman would want Cole Caufield in any deal for Mantha sniper for sniper. And Bergevin hangs up right then and there. Montreal isn't getting Mantha. So they had better look elsewhere.
5 mai 2020 à 16 h 32
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That's fair because I don't see Montreal doing the deal either.


Yup especially for what it's going to cost Montreal, No way Yzerman deals Mantha to Montreal without it being painful. Bergevin will pay a high price if he truly wants him. And Yzerman know's that.
5 mai 2020 à 16 h 44
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I saw some blurb somewhere about Mantha to MTL, was there something of substance out there or was it click bait?


It was a reporter in Montreal that said MB would try to use the tactic like he used with Aho. Offer a contract tender to Mantha as he is a RFA and give up picks. Problem is Wings have 40 million in cap space, so unless MB overpays and is willing ng to give up at least two 1st and other picks then Wings have money to match.
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Mantha 173 point in 260 games 20th overall in 2013
He average 0.66 ppg have fight 9 time
Is best season ppg average .89

Domi 251 point in 375 games 13th overall in 2013
He average 0.66 ppg have fight 10 time
Is best ppg average was 0.88

These two players cannot be more even so people need to realize that Mantha isn’t Wayne Gretzky. He isn’t even a top right winger around the league.
5 mai 2020 à 22 h 28
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Quoting: Sebybbq
Mantha 173 point in 260 games 20th overall in 2013
He average 0.66 ppg have fight 9 time
Is best season ppg average .89

Domi 251 point in 375 games 13th overall in 2013
He average 0.66 ppg have fight 10 time
Is best ppg average was 0.88

These two players cannot be more even so people need to realize that Mantha isn’t Wayne Gretzky. He isn’t even a top right winger around the league.


While I agree Mantha is not Gretzky and nobody says he is the Great One. Where di you see anyone say that?

Now, looking at the stats, Domi has played 105 games, and Mantha could outpace his .89 mpg or he could be injured more and fall below that number. I guess that alot of people see his Mantha is a big body and a power forward how can skate. That is something Domi is not, just can not see Wings trading for Domi when you have Mantha in the fold. Mantha just has what appears to have a higher ceiling and something the Wings do not want to risk.

Lastly he is one of the best players on the Wings lineup and it is harder for Wings to justify the trade then it would be for the Habs.
5 mai 2020 à 22 h 44
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Quoting: mikearky
While I agree Mantha is not Gretzky and nobody says he is the Great One. Where di you see anyone say that?

Now, looking at the stats, Domi has played 105 games, and Mantha could outpace his .89 mpg or he could be injured more and fall below that number. I guess that alot of people see his Mantha is a big body and a power forward how can skate. That is something Domi is not, just can not see Wings trading for Domi when you have Mantha in the fold. Mantha just has what appears to have a higher ceiling and something the Wings do not want to risk.

Lastly he is one of the best players on the Wings lineup and it is harder for Wings to justify the trade then it would be for the Habs.


Why Matha would have a higher ceiling? Why Domi couldn’t higher is 0.88 ppg average? And yes Domi had played 105 more games. When Mantha was not good enough for the Nhl Domi was already playing with the Yotes and having success. The fact is both players production is almost the same. While Mantha is absolutely a better sniper, Domi is by far a better playmaker. Domi in all of is 5 season in the league have been in the top 3 in scoring so have been actually one of the best players on the Yotes and with the Habs. The only difference that these players have is the perception Red wings fan have over him. Because with all the similarities that these player have that the only logical explanation.
And actually Mantha can’t out pace the 105 game that Domi played over him since these game where played before Mantha was playing in the Nhl. Mantha would have to outproduce Domi for the reminder of is career and personality i just don’t think that it happening. Both will continu to gravitate betweem 0.70 to 0.90 point per game.
 
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