I’m not a Penguins fan, but I have to admit that Jake Guentzel is actually better than Alexander Ovechkin, by a lot. Ovechkin is a one dimensional player who’s only trick is to score one timers at the half wall. The vast majority of his goals come on the power play in which there’s no one marking him. He’s absolutely useless at even strength. He entirely relies on his teammates to set him up. Guentzel on the other hand, is one of the elite players at 5v5. A very high percentage of his points are earned at even strength, unlike Ovechkin. Guentzel is actually capable of driving the play and improving the play of his linemates, unlike Ovechkin. Also, Guentzel is 7th all time in playoff goals per game. He performs when it actually matters. Ovechkin has a long way to go before he reaches Guentzel’s level.

Johnny Bucyk was the greatest ever.....over 200+ goals scored after he hit the age 35 years old. Albeit those 200 goals were scored in the '70's after expansion. His twilight years were more productive than his prime years, name another player like that.

Your actually crazy. Guentzal plays with good players and Ovechkin has had 50 goal seasons and Guentzal hasn't even had one yet. Ovechkin is way better scorer than Guentzal. Ovi could be the greatest of all time

Your schtick is already old

I never said Guentzel was a better goal scorer, he is the better player. Let me know when Ovechkin can drive the play & contribute defensively. All he does is score one timers & tap ins in which Oshie does the work for him.

lol what? You’re nuts

I can already see the copypastas

By that Logic, Pasta is better. But im not saying that.
Top goal Scorers rn: (and over the past 3 years
1. Ovi
2. Pasta
3. Matthews
4. Kane
5. Drai.
6. Kucherov
7. etc etc

Guentzel doesnt even crack top 5, and he played with Crosby
Guentzel is 35th in goals over the past three years, (and he has played just about as many games as Pasta, and more than Bergeron who has more goals (in less games if that wasnt clear))

The Great One scored almost all his goals in the '80's just by using a wrist shot on bad angles after entering the zone, the Great One's shots could be saved by even the worst Jr. B goalie in today's generation. There's a reason why the Great One became a 20 goal scorer after the goalie talent improved with the butterfly style.

The post:
"NUmber 1 goal scorer"
You:
"Jake Guentzel is actually better than Alexander Ovechkin"

What this means:
" Jake Guentzel is actually [the] better [NUmber 1 goal scorer] than Alexander Ovechkin"

If you meant player, you should have said it.
@Torontoleafs15 you are right dude, we all had the same thought

Cause Ovechkin is way older. If 10 years ago Ovechkin played against todays Guentzal Ovechkin would destroy Guentzal

Jake Guentzel’s first full season he played on the third line with stinking Riley Sheehan. Still scored 21 goals! The season after he scored 40 goals driving the play on the top line. This season, he was the play driver again scoring 20 in 39 (42 in 82). Have to keep in mind Ovechkin scored most of his goals in an era in which defending & goaltending was very bad.

Wayne Gretzky is the most overrated hockey player of all time. The guy was nothing special, he didn’t have any skill or talent. He was just riding on luck his entire career scoring goals and racking up assists. Gretzky played in an easy era where there weren’t many stars and the competitive level was fairly low. He was not naturally gifted. Just because his stats say he’s good doesn’t mean he actually is. Patrick Kane is a WAY better hockey player than Gretzky.

Ovechkin in his prime was even more lazy & defensively incompetent. He’s no where near Guentzel or Gaudreau as the best LW in hockey.

Right because OVI over the past three years is a different ERA than Guentzel over the past three years lol

Guentzel does so much more than Ovechkin. All Ovie is good at is waiting at the half wall for his teammates to set him up for a one timer. That’s why he has more goals.

Also, based on EVERYTHING you are saying. Marchy is the CLEAR top LW. He is a top 10 goal Scorer, but is also one of the Best Penalty killers in the league and one of the top defensive forwards. He leads the league in SHP over the past three years, and plays in EVERY situation.

So the TOP LW is either OVI or Marchy and thats a fact. Johnny Hockey is up there too, but Guentzel is not that good

Watch some hockey dude. Ovi is a sound defensive play. Heavy Hitter, and a Leader on the team.

I dont know how else to try to help you right now

Scoring short handed goals & points doesn’t make you a good defensive forward. Look at Marchand’s defensive coverage during the playoffs last season, god awful & he keeps getting walked around. Sure he scores a lot, but that’s because the defense of Krug, McAvoy, Carlo & grezlyck are very active at keeping possession & moving the puck.

Check the stats dude. Ovie is a trash defensive Forward.

You are thinking about the one play lol.
I knew you would bring it up.
WATCH THE PLAYOFFS. He played excellent Defense

Check the ADVANCED STATS dude. Stats arent everything.

That's not his role anyways. Focus where he's good at: Scoring. For sure, I watched him and yes, he waits at the blue line but that's because of what WSH got. Backstrom. Oshie. Kuznetsov. Wilson. Vrana. They do that work and Ovechkin finishes it.

It seems easy to say " he only waits for one-timer " but you actually need to be able to put the puck in the net. Not all (even 90-95%) players can do that. The shot accuracy and the power. The positioning to be ready to receive that pass. Ability to shoot from any place in the o-zone. All that isn't nothing.

The guy is a one trick pony. Other than scoring one timers, he doesn’t have much skills. He is slow & can’t score solo goals in which he undressed the defense. I don’t see see anything special.

As a blackhawks fan, Drai is definitely a better pure goal scorer than Kane, or atleast as of this season. Kane's a better playmaker than he is a scorer, but he's definitely got a good shot that people dont talk about enough