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Deadline Rebuild

Créé par: Salzy
Date de création initiale: fév 23, 2020
Publié: Feb 23 at 6:16 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Ducks d'Anaheim
Explications
Trying to best weaponize our cap space, which is the Ducks most valuable deadline asset. With the top end offense at the top of the draft trying to build our RD should take priority at the deadline so we can take the best available forward on draft day

Next Season Depth Chart (Without 2020 draft picks or FA)
Jones - Getzlaf - Rakell
Comtois - Steel - Silf
Ritchie - Henrique - Terry
Deslauriers - Backes - Comeau

Lindholm - J.Honka
Fowler - Gudbranson
Mahura - Hakanpaa

Gibson
Stolarz
Transactions
ANA
  1. Honka, Anttoni [Liste de réserve]
  2. Kuokkanen, Janne
  3. 2020 1e round pick (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Not sure of his availability but I think Honka would be a more realistic target than Suzuki
CAR
  1. Miller, Ryan (562 500 $ retained)
  2. Manson, Josh
  3. Del Zotto, Michael
Détails additionnels:
Lets assume Miller waives for the sake of argument
ANA
    Add a cap dump from CAR, Just wasnt sure who
    CAR
      ANA
      1. Comeau, Blake
      2. Honka, Julius [Liste de réserve]
      DAL
      1. Grant, Derek
      ANA
      1. Ceci, Cody
      2. 2020 4e round pick (VGK)
      3. 2021 5e round pick (TOR)
      TOR
      1. Rowney, Carter (566 666 $ retained)
      ANA
        Assuming Ceci will come off LTIR this season, not sure how serious his injury is
        TOR
          Rachats de contrats
          • Corey Perry: 2 625 000 $
          • Simon Despres: 0 $
          Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
          • Ryan Miller: 562 500 $ (50%)
          • Carter Rowney: 566 666 $ (50%)
          ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
          2020
          ANA
          BOS
          TOR
          ANA
          ANA
          VGK
          ANA
          ANA
          2021
          ANA
          ANA
          ANA
          ANA
          ANA
          TOR
          ANA
          2022
          ANA
          ANA
          ANA
          ANA
          ANA
          ANA
          ANA
          TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
          2181 500 000 $71 666 423 $0 $982 500 $9 833 577 $
          Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
          ANA
          Jones, Max
          863 333 $
          AG
          RFA - 2
          ANA
          Getzlaf, Ryan
          8 250 000 $
          C
          NMC
          UFA - 2
          ANA
          Rakell, Rickard
          3 789 444 $
          C, AD, AG
          UFA - 3
          ANA
          Ritchie, Nick
          1 498 925 $
          AG
          RFA - 2
          ANA
          Henrique, Adam
          5 825 000 $
          C
          NTC
          UFA - 5
          ANA
          Terry, Troy
          925 000 $
          C, AD
          RFA - 1
          ANA
          Shore, Devin
          2 300 000 $
          AG, C, AD
          RFA - 1
          ANA
          Steel, Sam
          863 333 $
          C
          RFA - 2
          ANA
          Silfverberg, Jakob
          5 250 000 $
          AD, AG
          NTC
          UFA - 5
          ANA
          Deslauriers, Nicolas
          950 000 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 1
          ANA
          Backes, David
          4 500 000 $
          C, AD
          NTC
          UFA - 2
          DAL
          Comeau, Blake
          2 400 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 2
          Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
          ANA
          Lindholm, Hampus
          5 205 556 $
          DG
          UFA - 3
          TOR
          Ceci, Cody
          4 500 000 $
          DD
          UFA - 1
          ANA
          Gibson, John
          6 400 000 $
          G
          UFA - 8
          ANA
          Fowler, Cam
          6 500 000 $
          DG
          NTC
          UFA - 7
          ANA
          Holzer, Korbinian
          850 000 $
          DD
          UFA - 1
          ANA
          Stolarz, Anthony
          750 000 $
          G
          UFA - 2
          ANA
          Larsson, Jacob
          894 166 $
          DG
          RFA - 1
          ANA
          Wideman, Chris
          700 000 $
          DD
          UFA - 1
          Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
          ANA
          Guhle, Brendan
          697 500 $
          DG
          RFA - 1
          ANA
          Gudbranson, Erik
          4 000 000 $
          DD
          UFA - 2
          ANA
          Eaves, Patrick
          3 150 000 $
          AD, AG
          NTC
          UFA - 1
          ANA
          Kesler, Ryan
          6 875 000 $
          C, AD
          NMC
          UFA - 3

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          23 fév à 18 h 52
          #1
          Rejoint: jun 2019
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          As a ducks fan and lets say for sake of argument worked with you being the GM I would advise against every trade strongly. Like I'm glad this is fake.
          23 fév à 19 h 24
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          Quoting: Slezzy21
          As a ducks fan and lets say for sake of argument worked with you being the GM I would advise against every trade strongly. Like I'm glad this is fake.


          Guess we disagree, CAR deal adds a highly regarded RD prospect a good B prospect and a first

          DAL deal adds a decent option at RD for a guy that fetches a 4th best case scenario

          TOR deal is questionable sure but Rowney would probably get a 5 or 6th on his own

          A first round pick in this draft and adding some good young RD options along with a decent forward prospect really at just the cost Manson and some low tier rentals, I would be ecstatic with this deadline
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          23 fév à 19 h 43
          #3
          Rejoint: jun 2019
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          @salzy first of Gotta apologize I just have seen to many stupid Manson trades. But I see your point of view and respect it. I personally need a 2nd round for grant because I rather keep him and Honka is probably not gonna pan out. For the other trade I just see it being an underpayment for Manson. I know that sounds a little silly but his presence is so valuable in the playoffs. Plus he's got the term and a great cap hit. Not to mention, the pick is conditional and I don't like the prospects we can get back. To add onto that I don't think its good to take on another cap dump. Then I just completely disagree with the retention on Rowney and getting Cody Ceci despite the picks we receive with him.
          23 fév à 19 h 52
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          Quoting: Slezzy21
          @salzy first of Gotta apologize I just have seen to many stupid Manson trades. But I see your point of view and respect it. I personally need a 2nd round for grant because I rather keep him and Honka is probably not gonna pan out. For the other trade I just see it being an underpayment for Manson. I know that sounds a little silly but his presence is so valuable in the playoffs. Plus he's got the term and a great cap hit. Not to mention, the pick is conditional and I don't like the prospects we can get back. To add onto that I don't think its good to take on another cap dump. Then I just completely disagree with the retention on Rowney and getting Cody Ceci despite the pick we receive with him.


          I broke down the CAR trade like this in my mind
          Manson = Honka + 1st
          Miller DZ = JK (I see miller being valued at a 4th/5th without retention and DZ being a 6th/7th)

          There is no team that will give a second for Grant, and holding on to him for nothing is poor asset management, we can trade him and sign him in the offseason if we want to keep him that bad

          Worrying about someones playoff presence with the team in the situation we are in is also mismanagement, I love Manson and would hate to see him go but getting a really good RD prospect and a mid 1st would be a great return for him, he isn't the same player he was a few seasons ago

          His contract adds to his value and BM should take advantage of that and not hold on for the sake of it especially if CAR gets desperate

          Taking on minor cap dumps would be fine (Under 3M cap hits for a year) we aren't competing next season so we might as well use a valuable asset in our cap space

          a 4th and a 5th for Rowney would be a good return for him, and taking Ceci to play RD for 20 games doesn't affect us at all

          This team is 2 seasons away from competing best case, that leaves one year of Manson who may regress further by that time, His value won't be higher than it is now and that should be capitalized on
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          23 fév à 20 h 27
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          I like the fact you've taken a completely different approach to address our issues. Despite being a big believer in keeping Manson, I actually quite like the trade you've put together, especially considering that TOR a risk for not actually making the playoffs. I think the value is absolutely there. I just wouldn't personally do that deal because I don't like that RS without Manson. I am not on the Julius Honka hype train at all and certainly would never even consider playing him top pairing. Would rather just get a 2nd or 3rd for Grant. I don't understand why some fans want him signed. He's a neat player, but nothing special and totally movable. If we keep him, he only gains further leverage to demand a stupid contract after the good year he's had. No thanks. Don't understand moving Rowney. He's been good us and all we're returning is a few late round picks. Not worth it to me considering we'd probably spend more trading for a replacement or overpay on someone at UFA.
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          23 fév à 20 h 35
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          Quoting: mytduxfan
          I like the fact you've taken a completely different approach to address our issues. Despite being a big believer in keeping Manson, I actually quite like the trade you've put together, especially considering that TOR a risk for not actually making the playoffs. I think the value is absolutely there. I just wouldn't personally do that deal because I don't like that RS without Manson. I am not on the Julius Honka hype train at all and certainly would never even consider playing him top pairing. Would rather just get a 2nd or 3rd for Grant. I don't understand why some fans want him signed. He's a neat player, but nothing special and totally movable. If we keep him, he only gains further leverage to demand a stupid contract after the good year he's had. No thanks. Don't understand moving Rowney. He's been good us and all we're returning is a few late round picks. Not worth it to me considering we'd probably spend more trading for a replacement or overpay on someone at UFA.


          Im on the same boat with Manson, Hate to see him go but if we can get a package like this for him I'd pull the trigger, and depending on the Pesce injury this may be a possibility

          J. Honka may not be the ideal option but if we can get a player like that for Grant, who is a 4th liner and nothing more I'd take a flier on Honka, to be fair though I've always been a big fan of his

          I don't see us getting more than a 4th for Grant tbh, I would love to get more but I was trying to be more realisitic with my returns and not absolute best case scenario, He should 100% get moved for the best offer tomorrow regardless what it is

          Yeah the more I look at the Rowney deal the more I even question it, I think I was just having fun making trades, I figured his role could be filled by the combo of Backes/Comeau though
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