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Créé par: canesfan3030

Équipe: 2019-20 Hurricanes de la Caroline

Date de création initiale: 13 févr. 2020

Publié: 13 févr. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Dumba, Matt

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Gardiner, Jake
Kuokkanen, Janne
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (TOR)

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Patrick Marleau: 6 250 000 $
Alexander Semin: 2 333 333 $

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Justin Faulk: 683 333 $ (14.14%)

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	81 500 000 $	82 355 666 $	0 $	4 507 500 $	-855 666 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Svechnikov, Andrei 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 650 000 $$3M) AG, AD UFA - 2	Aho, Sebastian 8 454 000 $8 454 000 $ C UFA - 5	Teräväinen, Teuvo 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 5
Dzingel, Ryan 3 375 000 $3 375 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 2	Haula, Erik 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Necas, Martin 863 333 $863 333 $ (537 500 $$538K) AD RFA - 3
Niederreiter, Nino 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Wallmark, Lucas 675 000 $675 000 $ C UFA - 1	Williams, Justin 700 000 $700 000 $ (1 300 000 $$1M) AD UFA - 1
	Staal, Jordan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 4	McGinn, Brock 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Foegele, Warren 746 667 $746 667 $ (20 000 $$20K) AG, AD UFA - 1	Martinook, Jordan 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Slavin, Jaccob 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ DG UFA - 6	Dumba, Matt 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Reimer, James 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ G UFA - 2
	Pesce, Brett 4 025 000 $4 025 000 $ DD UFA - 5	Mrázek, Petr 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ G UFA - 2
Edmundson, Joel 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	van Riemsdyk, Trevor 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Fleury, Haydn 850 000 $850 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Hamilton, Dougie 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ DD UFA - 2

13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 3

Caniac2000

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Gardiner has more points than 9 of the forwards since the all star break. This makes no sense

13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 10

canesfan3030

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Gardiner has more points than 9 of the forwards since the all star break. This makes no sense

That stat line doesn't really mean anything as the sample size is too small (6 games). Dumba > gardiner.

GenXHockey a aimé ceci.

13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 18

Caniac2000

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Quoting: canesfan3030

That stat line doesn't really mean anything as the sample size is too small (6 games). Dumba > gardiner.

As someone who loves analytics, I could not disagree more. Gardiner's analytics are MADLY insane. They won't acquire someone with poor analytics for an analytical darling. Eric Tulsky may kill someone

13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 26

GenXHockey

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Quoting: Caniac2000

They would be looking at necas and pick. Whether or not it is the price you want to pay that is their quoted ask.

13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 33

Caniac2000

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Quoting: Jamiepo

They would be looking at necas and pick. Whether or not it is the price you want to pay that is their quoted ask.

Then there's no deal here. Necas is an instant deal breaker for anyone (unless it's like McDavid or some ****)

13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 34

GenXHockey

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Then there's no deal here. Necas is an instant deal breaker for anyone (unless it's like McDavid or some ****)

Necas is good... but you are getting a bit carried away.

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13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 35

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Probably not Necas, But it would take at least Suzuki and then some. Those pieces aren't getting you Dumba.

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13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 36

Caniac2000

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Quoting: Jamiepo

Necas is good... but you are getting a bit carried away.

Necas is a long term projected 2C, and could even be a 1C. That's just the quality of player he is. He's a rookie and he's tied 4th in scoring among forwards

13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 42

GenXHockey

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Necas is a long term projected 2C, and could even be a 1C. That's just the quality of player he is. He's a rookie and he's tied 4th in scoring among forwards

4th on the canes. I would put him on par with a player like hischier for value.

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13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 42

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Quoting: Caniac2000

I understand that analytics are important, but at some point you have to use the eye test. Just out of curiosity what are your thoughts on Gardiner's play this season, analytics aside?

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13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 43

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Ryminister_27

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Analytics don't get you everywhere. Gardiner doesn't show up in big moments. & that's coming from someone who works in analytics

13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 44

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: canesfan3030

I understand that analytics are important, but at some point you have to use the eye test. Just out of curiosity what are your thoughts on Gardiner's play this season, analytics aside?

He's been unlucky. He generates a SHED ton of offensive chances. His defense isn't anything to write home about but I've liked his game, there's just no finish.

13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 46

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Necas is a long term projected 2C, and could even be a 1C. That's just the quality of player he is. He's a rookie and he's tied 4th in scoring among forwards

Quoting: Jamiepo

4th on the canes. I would put him on par with a player like hischier for value.

Hischier is a fair comparison. The core of the canes consists of Aho, Teravainen, Svech, and Slavin. Necas is certainly making a strong case to join this core, if he hasn't already so he's not gonna be traded.

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13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 48

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: canesfan3030

Nico is arguably a top 15 C in the NHL, he's one of the few bright spots on a crappy devils team. Necas won't be that good,but he'll be kinda like someone like Trocheck

13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 50

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Quoting: Caniac2000

He's been unlucky. He generates a SHED ton of offensive chances. His defense isn't anything to write home about but I've liked his game, there's just no finish.

I don't want unlucky players on my team. If you go through a ten game stretch where the puck doesn't go in that's one thing. But Gardiner has been "unlucky" his whole career and is showing no sign of ending that trend.

13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 53

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: canesfan3030

Gardiner was great in toronto, his production per chance created was great. You're using a 50 game sample size to review a players career luck and it's just wrong

13 févr. 2020 à 17 h 57

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Gardiner was great in toronto, his production per chance created was great. You're using a 50 game sample size to review a players career luck and it's just wrong

It's not just point production, it's the success of the team surrounding him. If you're throwing out an "unlucky" defenseman in a crucial game 7, it probably won't end well (just ask leafs fans).

13 févr. 2020 à 18 h 4

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Quoting: canesfan3030

It's not just point production, it's the success of the team surrounding him. If you're throwing out an "unlucky" defenseman in a crucial game 7, it probably won't end well (just ask leafs fans).

You can't blame one man for a team's failure

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