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Nurse to Montreal at the draft

Créé par: kailer_memeamoto
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 4 févr. 2020
Publié: 4 févr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If nurse actually is asking for 8 million, he’s either got to come down to below 6 million, or get outta Edmonton. It just won’t work down the road
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EDM
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Pick #11
MTL
  1. Nurse, Darnell [Droits de RFA]
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Pick #54
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EDM
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
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4 févr. 2020 à 18 h 10
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Hard no from MTL
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4 févr. 2020 à 18 h 11
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MTL would never do that
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4 févr. 2020 à 18 h 14
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Hard no from MTL


Any reason why? I think it’s decently fair. You get a potential top 6 fwd in JP, the top 4 two-way left d man that Montreal has been looking for + a 2nd rounder in a good draft, in exchange for a top 6 forward and a mid-range pick, albeit in a stacked draft.
4 févr. 2020 à 18 h 18
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Any reason why? I think it’s decently fair. You get a potential top 6 fwd in JP, the top 4 two-way left d man that Montreal has been looking for + a 2nd rounder in a good draft, in exchange for a top 6 forward and a mid-range pick, albeit in a stacked draft.


Take out MTL 1st and we still decline
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4 févr. 2020 à 18 h 24
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stop tryin to dump Puljujärvi he,s a bust
4 févr. 2020 à 18 h 27
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Take out MTL 1st and we still decline


you must really like Drouin
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4 févr. 2020 à 18 h 28
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Value is probably good but the Habs will be hard pressed to keep their 1st in the draft this year barring an absolute steal.

Just because everyone else wants to play "MB hangs up" game, I'll play along and say I'd be willing to offer a counter that I personally would accept and the Habs would entertain i think. Assuming EDM finishes 16-20th in the final draft ranking, I'd be wiling to do something along the lines of:

JP
Nurse
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for
Drouin
MTL 1st (10th-15th)
Juulsen/Vejdemo/Evans
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4 févr. 2020 à 18 h 32
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Skriko needs to change his team
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4 févr. 2020 à 18 h 32
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Quoting: F50marco
Value is probably good but the Habs will be hard pressed to keep their 1st in the draft this year barring an absolute steal.

Just because everyone else wants to play "MB hangs up" game, I'll play along and say I'd be willing to offer a counter that I personally would accept and the Habs would entertain i think. Assuming EDM finishes 16-20th in the final draft ranking, I'd be wiling to do something along the lines of:

JP
Nurse
EDM 1st (16th-21st)
for
Drouin
MTL 1st (10th-15th)
Juulsen/Vejdemo/Evans


Better
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4 févr. 2020 à 18 h 38
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stop tryin to dump Puljujärvi he,s a bust


So is kk
4 févr. 2020 à 18 h 53
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
So is kk


neither are just both teams fanbase's were rabid due to no playoffs for long gaps and GM's jobs were on the line .

KK will do as good in Laval as Puljujarvi is in Liiga (41 points in 42 games for 6th in the League )

Piss Poor deciscion making set them back a year or two is all .
Dylan Strome went through this in ARZ as did Domi,Duclair and Ryan Strome to a lesser extent . (he did face bad management in NYI but after that it was on him)
4 févr. 2020 à 19 h 9
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Take out MTL 1st and we still decline


No we shouldn't. Top pairing dmen with size scoring 35 points and playing 23 minutes game, and a 22 years old former 4th overall power forward capable of putting 40+ points, plus a 2nd round pick. You pull the trigger.
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4 févr. 2020 à 19 h 54
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Quoting: F50marco
Value is probably good but the Habs will be hard pressed to keep their 1st in the draft this year barring an absolute steal.

Just because everyone else wants to play "MB hangs up" game, I'll play along and say I'd be willing to offer a counter that I personally would accept and the Habs would entertain i think. Assuming EDM finishes 16-20th in the final draft ranking, I'd be wiling to do something along the lines of:

JP
Nurse
EDM 1st (16th-21st)
for
Drouin
MTL 1st (10th-15th)
Juulsen/Vejdemo/Evans


I think if edmonton adds their first, they take out JP in favour of a lower level prospect, like mcleod or samorukov
4 févr. 2020 à 20 h 9
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I think if edmonton adds their first, they take out JP in favour of a lower level prospect, like mcleod or samorukov


i actually think MTL prefers this as it helps Laval until they're ready. (MTL has put a lot of effort into growing Laval's fanbase and team )
Mcleod could be up next year
Samorukov at worst will help our AHL team win a championship with Brook and Fleury

JP's agent already said he's not rushing back to the NHL he's focused on developing his game
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4 févr. 2020 à 20 h 45
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i actually think MTL prefers this as it helps Laval until they're ready. (MTL has put a lot of effort into growing Laval's fanbase and team )
Mcleod could be up next year
Samorukov at worst will help our AHL team win a championship with Brook and Fleury

JP's agent already said he's not rushing back to the NHL he's focused on developing his game


JP’s agent said he won’t return to Edmonton, he wants to play in the NHL just like everyone else
4 févr. 2020 à 20 h 53
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No we shouldn't. Top pairing dmen with size scoring 35 points and playing 23 minutes game, and a 22 years old former 4th overall power forward capable of putting 40+ points, plus a 2nd round pick. You pull the trigger.


Top pairing are you kidding me ? Nurse is a #4 and he’s asking for 8M AAV **** that I thought around 6M is better and Edmonton fans thinks he’s not worth 6M
4 févr. 2020 à 20 h 54
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Top pairing are you kidding me ? Nurse is a #4 and he’s asking for 8M AAV **** that I thought around 6M is better and Edmonton fans thinks he’s not worth 6M

#4? He’s a 2/3 on most teams. Would be Montreal’s best LD, so he’d be playing on the top pair...
4 févr. 2020 à 21 h 2
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#4? He’s a 2/3 on most teams. Would be Montreal’s best LD, so he’d be playing on the top pair...


Nah he’ll be playing on the second pairing with Petry, they aren’t touching the Chiarot-Weber pairing
4 févr. 2020 à 21 h 5
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Drouin's value is a bit higher than Nurse's but in the same loose range IMO. I think what's throwing off the trade the most is JP, whose value is an unknown. Players with question mark values don't belong in player-for-player trades.
4 févr. 2020 à 21 h 5
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Nah he’ll be playing on the second pairing with Petry, they aren’t touching the Chiarot-Weber pairing

That's naive. We thought they weren't touching the Mete-Weber pairing either. Anything can happen when a new season comes along.
4 févr. 2020 à 21 h 22
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Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup
Drouin's value is a bit higher than Nurse's but in the same loose range IMO. I think what's throwing off the trade the most is JP, whose value is an unknown. Players with question mark values don't belong in player-for-player trades.

Drouin isn’t the most solid defensively and is fairly inconsistent, there’s also a lot more 2nd line 50/60 point wingers in the NHL than there is guys of Nurse’s calibre at that age on defense
4 févr. 2020 à 21 h 53
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Drouin isn’t the most solid defensively and is fairly inconsistent, there’s also a lot more 2nd line 50/60 point wingers in the NHL than there is guys of Nurse’s calibre at that age on defense


Drouin is making 5.5M AAV, Nurse wants 8M lol
4 févr. 2020 à 22 h 3
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Drouin is making 5.5M AAV, Nurse wants 8M lol

That isn’t relevant to how valuable each player is
5 févr. 2020 à 15 h 32
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Quoting: roosroos
That isn’t relevant to how valuable each player is

It is, but if you prefer, since we're just disagreeing over who is a bit better than the other, let's say they're worth even one-for-one.

Then why do the rest of the trade and add even more question marks in there?
5 févr. 2020 à 18 h 1
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Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup
It is, but if you prefer, since we're just disagreeing over who is a bit better than the other, let's say they're worth even one-for-one.

Then why do the rest of the trade and add even more question marks in there?


Let’s say Nurse is worth the 11th overall pick. Then JP + 2nd rounder + extra? Is worth Drouin. It’s a package deal to solve a few problems on each side in one trads
 
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