Obviously open to discussion but I take the Tampa trade as a scary contract the sharks take on for two prospects. They give Tampa no long term commitment but immediate playoff aid. Bottom 6 players where gourde really should be to round out depth. Marleau has played in SJS top 6 a lot this year so he can keep up with elevated time if needed.

zero chance of Gourde waiving his full NTC from a potential cup team in Tampa, For a Non-Playoff team in San Jose. Need to be realistic here no one in Tampa is waiving for a Non-Playoff team if they've a chance to win a cup this summer. Just not remotely happening.

I’d be more interested in doing that for Labanc as opposed to those 2. Would be a fallback but doubtful.

JFK/Gambrell a wash leaving 1st/Backes for Dillon which is not great. Be better if it was a 21 1st. Even then i can’t see it unless out of options.

Forget he had a NTCFULL

That’s weird he has one. Lemme re look at other options

That is so scary so many of their players of NTC but someone like Hedman doesn’t lmao

I'd prefer to take Andersson & the 3rd out of the NYR trade, but it seems okay

I disagree. Gourde stuck on fourth line. He needs a change and more minutes to get out of his funk. There are a lot worst places than San Jose. The prospects have been considered solid but as with all prospects they have expiration dates and we are about there. Right now they are closer to bottom six than top six. So yes TB does the deal.

I think anyone would rather Labanc move for the NYR deal. Where it would be unfair for SJS to make that deal with Boston lmfao.

Let’s be real your 2020 pick is going to be what 25-31 it’s basically a second if you win the cup or go to the SCF again.
Dillons ask on the market is a 2nd + so already you’re getting him for a “discount” as marleau was moved and bought out for a first.

Yeah probably not one of Yzerman's better decisions, Probably had to give them one just to get them to sign those deals and give then a choice where they wanted to go later. The only one that becomes a Mod-NTC this summer is Killorns. So one assumes he'll be the odd man out later this summer.

Broken record but Marleu was a completely different and unique situation that has no reflection on Backes.

Problem is if they give up this years 1st in this deal they have no draft capital left to make a move for a player they actually need as opposed to a depth piece as they are not going to trade both 1st and 2nd in this years draft away.

It’s a no from Boston.

Only way they’d even consider it is if they picked up someone like Toffoli, Kase, or Josh Anderson in a way that would allow them to do this. Unlikely.


BTW that Rangers deal is horrible. Georgie is not that good. It’s a backup goalie, a 3rd liner with upside, and a head case. I would not give up Labanc by himself for that.

Not saying that it isn't a good deal for Tampa, Just doubt Gourde waives from a potential cup team in Tampa for a Non-Playoff team in San Jose. If he agrees to waive his full NTC. One would assume it's either at the draft or a summertime deal not a trade deadline deal.

Hedman has a NMC. Even Coburn has a NTC.

I really like Gourde and that he comes and plays every shift. But this is a business and TB just may waive him and send him down. His head is in the wrong place, he is passing up obvious shots. He will not return to top six minutes which he needs to get his mojo back.

I would love to have Gourde in Detroit, I know Yzerman has always been high on him. And he could easily get top 6 minutes there unless by a miracle we get Alexis Lafreniere then all bets are off.

JBB will put a bow on him and send him to SY at anytime. The problem really is the contract. Next 5 years he is making 5.16 million each year. Toronto gave up a first to dump Marleau one year 6 million contract. Yanni is on pace for less than 10 goals and 29 points. I hate to say it but JBB may have to package Cirelli and Gourde to get his contract off the books. TB is in cap hell this summer.

Yeah that contract is definitely appalling right now. We already have two bad contract with both Nielsen and Abdelkader don't need a 3rd one. Finally seeing a light at the end of the tunnel with these bad contract Holland did awhile back.

Marleau has no bearing on Backes. None. Totally different scenarios.

Take a look at the bruins d group. No interest in Dillon. Or gambrell. The things you’re asking in return are all available, but not for that.

“None” well to say none at all is wrong due to both being contracts that aren’t worth their value and the potential to move. Backes has been sent down and if your the bruins GM you’d rather be able to use at 6 mil for other trade deadline moves. This isn’t a trade that has to be done or they’re missing out. But it is a feasible Trade.

Backes would cost the value similar to the cost of moving marleau as they are very similar contracts. You could also say the bruins don’t NEED to move him but you can also say the should move him. Additionally Dillons selling price is above a 2020 2nd as mentioned.
And the bruins are literally a team reportedly interested in Dillon aswell. Wasn’t like ah maybe the bruins. It was The bruins are amoung the top teams that have discussed acquiring Dillon. Not some cap friendly dude saying something. Trade doesn’t need to happen obviously but just saying there is justification.

The contracts were similar? I mean, in the sense of they had similar cap hits and suck, i guess. But, did Marleau have an NMC? Was he a 35+ contract? Was his buyout cost 3.83 million with a 6.25 cap hit? Well, none of that is true of Backes.

Excuse me if I’m not buying on whatever reporter stirred up this rumor, but it just doesn’t make sense. Just like a 3rd and steen for Kase doesn’t make sense, but Lebrun is giving that legs.

Do think Dillon would be a good add for the bruins tho.

Obviously not all teams inquiries are the best suitors for the acquisition and maybe some teams who are in more need for top 4 d men. But Dillon plays a hard gritty hockey that has shown is needed for the playoffs. As well as idk the bruins situation exactly; Miller injured and moore, lauzon making it 7 d total. Now I know lauzon is a prospect and just here to try out but assumingly, I can say Dillon is better then not currently. It’s not a need but a want. But that would be deepest defense in the league with every pair being able to be a pain in the ass. Or if Dillon moves up and plays with someone else idk but I do like the fit Dillon in Boston. Now realistically he’s more needed in Winnipeg, “Toronto” (they just need help), Carolina, and a few others.

As for buying out backes it doesn’t really help Boston if they do it this summer. So moving him is much easier as to why I suggest moving him from what I see in the buyout calculations it does not really help at all

Gaining 2 million in cap space helps.

As for Dillon, the Bruins prefer to not play guys on their off side. They’ve done it out of necessity a bit lately, but if they try to keep everyone on their strong side, Dillon would be their 4th left d. They like Clifton, but if Dillon were a right shot d, this might be a conversation.