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Please roast me - i mean who might be on trade block

Créé par: Mikker575
Équipe: 2019-20 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 31 janv. 2020
Publié: 31 janv. 2020
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I think Sharks should start rebuild, this is just my random opinion.
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SJS
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  1. Dillon, Brenden
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Can play top 4 minutes, defensive Dman, very physical, great locker room guy, retention possible I think, trade might include conditional pick if he resigns with the other team. He could hit 2nd rounder with some retention + some average prospect.
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  1. Karlsson, Melker
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Depth addition, great PK player, can play center or wing. UFA after season so retention is definitely an option. I would expect 4th round pick.
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  1. Heed, Tim
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Just trying to move him before he almost certainly leaves at the end of the season. I could se him go for future considerations or like 6th rounder if Wilson makes magic.
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  1. Dell, Aaron
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Right now, Sharks can only win with him in the net, so if SJS has no chance of making playoff before TDL, he can be traded. UFA next season, he improved his numbers during last 2 months, so I can see team like Toronto goin for him. Trade might include conditional pick for resigning, i´m not sure about his value, I think 2nd/3rd rounder, depends on previous trades - what would be Sharks looking for (i guess they might want lower pick but some interesting prospect, especially RW is issue). Retention if needed.
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  1. Thornton, Joe
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I dont know if there is market for him, if there is some interest, I think 4th/5th rounder is enough but honestly I cant see any team wanting him.
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  1. Marleau, Patrick
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I think some team might be interested, sniper (well of course not as he used to be), fast, can play on PK, cheap, no injury history, playoff experience. 4th rounder or some suitable prospect will do it.
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SJS
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  1. Sörensen, Marcus
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In case of interest, he might be traded but with his numbers this year, the return would not be that much, still has 2 years to end of current contract, so really I can see him go only if the value is sufficient, which, given to his current numbers, will not be, so unless someone is crazy, he will stay. I think fair value would be 5th rounder + prospect who meets Sharks needs (ideally under 20, right handed forward)
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SJS
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  1. Labanc, Kevin
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He shouldn´t leave, but if someone goes crazy and sends late 1st rounder + something more, it would be hard to say no.
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  1. Burns, Brent
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This is a tough one, but I think there is no sense in having both Karlsson and Burns especially with how the play this season. Trading Karlsson would make no sense, that would just prove that Wilson absolutely screwed and should resign the moment he accepts Karlsson´s trade, plus he is younger and with his contract length, he will have chance when Sharks can compete again. Burns is still good player, well he is not really a d-man but never was and it worked out for Sharks, only problem is his contract, so SJS would have to take some cap, because retaining for 6 years is stupid idea. I think 2nd rounder, very good prospect, average prospect and player to even cap (in this situation cap dump) is reasonable.
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31 janv. 2020 à 6 h 44
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Sharks should retool. They have quite some untradeable contracts and the team is pretty old + Sharks prospect pool isn't that good. They basically have no other option than retool and try to come back stronger next year
31 janv. 2020 à 7 h 13
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Sharks should retool. They have quite some untradeable contracts and the team is pretty old + Sharks prospect pool isn't that good. They basically have no other option than retool and try to come back stronger next year


Their prospect pool is terrible, they seriously need to have like 2 or 3 top 10 picks. Yes, they might find good talent in late round (actually they do that quite often), but most of the time, you find middle 6 players, they need top talent and raise it on their own. It is not coincidence that teams who won multiple times in recent years like Penguins and Blackhawks were built around their own high picks which were supported by smart additions. Getting top talent in a trade or as free agent and supporting it by your own decent players is not working that good imo.
31 janv. 2020 à 7 h 41
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Their prospect pool is terrible, they seriously need to have like 2 or 3 top 10 picks. Yes, they might find good talent in late round (actually they do that quite often), but most of the time, you find middle 6 players, they need top talent and raise it on their own. It is not coincidence that teams who won multiple times in recent years like Penguins and Blackhawks were built around their own high picks which were supported by smart additions. Getting top talent in a trade or as free agent and supporting it by your own decent players is not working that good imo.


True. But rebuilding isn't really an option right now for them. Aging core, multiple long-term contracts which ends when the player is (almost) 40. And they don't have their 1st for this years draft. Best thing Sharks can do, is trying it next year once again. And start the rebuild when the cap is quite a bit higher in a few years. Because most of their big contracts won't be traded unless you add like a 1st or something. And you can't part with your 1sts when you're rebuilding
31 janv. 2020 à 8 h 28
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I could see some contenders moving a 2nd rounder for Thornton. He'd be decent 3C in practically any team.
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1 févr. 2020 à 5 h 28
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True. But rebuilding isn't really an option right now for them. Aging core, multiple long-term contracts which ends when the player is (almost) 40. And they don't have their 1st for this years draft. Best thing Sharks can do, is trying it next year once again. And start the rebuild when the cap is quite a bit higher in a few years. Because most of their big contracts won't be traded unless you add like a 1st or something. And you can't part with your 1sts when you're rebuilding


Yeah, I can imagine they try to get rid of Jones somehow (but im not sure how), get a new coach, then find some UFA goalie (maybe they can try something like Chicago did with Lehner, one year with big money) and if they fail next season, they can start proper rebuild - the might send some big contract to Seattle and trade other big contracts for cap dump, some picks and prospects even if they lose those trades and start full rebuild. Key is to keep the 1st round picks, so they might have to find some players from Europe (Kubalik who?) or hit UFA market hard if they want to try next year.
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I could see some contenders moving a 2nd rounder for Thornton. He'd be decent 3C in practically any team.


Well it depends, I think if other teams want some C, there are other better options like Tierney, Zacha, R. Strome, Pageau, Namestnikov. They will be more expensive, but I can see teams rather overpaying for younger (and some of them RFA) players than some old vet who struggles in playoffs last few years. I would like to see Jumbo win cup, but I´m afraid he won´t get one.
1 févr. 2020 à 7 h 5
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Well it depends, I think if other teams want some C, there are other better options like Tierney, Zacha, R. Strome, Pageau, Namestnikov. They will be more expensive, but I can see teams rather overpaying for younger (and some of them RFA) players than some old vet who struggles in playoffs last few years. I would like to see Jumbo win cup, but I´m afraid he won´t get one.


Unlikely. Still I think Thornton will carry more value via trade than Zacha or Namestnikov. Teams tend to pay up for former success and experience. Nash to BOS trade was a good example of that.
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Unlikely. Still I think Thornton will carry more value via trade than Zacha or Namestnikov. Teams tend to pay up for former success and experience. Nash to BOS trade was a good example of that.


Yeah, Nash was 34 years old, Thornton is 40 and had serious knee injury not that long ago (but it seems he is OK hopefully), plus playing winger and center is not really the same business. My point is that I think it is unlikely that somebody pays that for a 40 year old slow 3C who is struggling (but who does not in SJS..), but that does not mean it is impossible.
 
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