I think in both cases we have a problem with the term "overvalue."
Guys who think Risto Ristolainen is worth a first-round pick and a top-6 forward are overvaluing their player.
Ducks fans have particular reasons for rejecting trades involving Kase and Manson, and only the latter has an element of "over-valuing."
Ducks fans want to get the equivalent of a Kase who will play the rest of his career with only minimal game loss due to injury. That would be a pretty nice price. The problem, of course, is that he has an injury history which makes it risky for other teams to offer his full worth. In short, Anaheim guys want the value of an 80-game Kase; guys trading for him (reasonably) want a discount for health.
Similarly, Ducks fans want a high price for Manson because we have no one else to play RhD other than Erik Gudbranson. But it makes little sense for an acquiring team to try to improve the right side of its own defense while sending back someone to replace him. And then there's the true element of overvaluing where he's concerned: Manson had one good year two seasons ago and doesn't look anything like that player now. In particular, if you'd watch him every game, you'd be appalled by the quality of the giveaways he commits on a regular and multiple basis. The first goal last night was just the latest example.
All very good points, which is why lost likely neither Manson nor Kase will be traded
His underlying metrics were really strong at the NHL level (he was demoted to the 4th line because barry trotz doesn’t trust young players) so that’s encouraging IMO. I’m still really high on him, bellows not so much despite him lighting it up in BPT over the last few months.
some fans think wahlstrom is going to be this 40+ goal scorer , I’m not that high on him, but I’m fairly confident he’ll be a 25-30 G scorer in a few years.
He’s got the skills to be a 25-30 goal scorer, I’m worried about 2 things:
1. If he can put all his skills together
2. Trotz/Thompson not giving him ice time which would hold him back
He’s got the skills to be a 25-30 goal scorer, I’m worried about 2 things:
1. If he can put all his skills together
2. Trotz/Thompson not giving him ice time which would hold him back
The way trotz handles young players isn’t bad for their development, it’s just frustrating watching as a fan because he’ll let grinders with no skill get more minutes than young skilled players. Thompson should have been fired years ago, it’s insane that he still has a job. That’s a legitimate concern, I agree with you there.
The way trotz handles young players isn’t bad for their development, it’s just frustrating watching as a fan because he’ll let grinders with no skill get more minutes than young skilled players. Thompson should have been fired years ago, it’s insane that he still has a job. That’s a legitimate concern, I agree with you there.