Rikola is a giveaway machine, also i dont think johnson has that much negative value, i mean we traded gudbranson and hes a lot worse than jj and we didn't add anything

Did Miletic actually go to the all-star game? The only WBS guy I saw was Agozino, bc I remember thinking I wish Miletic would have made it over him

Guddy is miles better than JJ, and when Riikola was paired with Marino they were dominant, and when he's been paired with CHAD RUHWEDEL he's been able to firm a competent pairing

But he doesnt make as much as Johnson

Anaheim won’t want Jack Johnson, they already got Gubranson. I bet that Rutherford was trying To trade Johnson there but ANA said they wanted Gubranson instead, because of the contract and he was a right shot guy with some talent, just big and slow.

Miletic ended up being his replacement.

Riikola is having a better season by pretty much every metric. A third pairing guy with good results and couple of giveaways is not an issue.

Johnson is also worse than Gudbranson. Not sure where you are getting the opposite. Gudbranson is also younger and right handed.

Much like with Simon getting top line duties or Kessel getting the boot... Johnson's position on the team has nothing to do with the coach or GM.

Odd then that they tried to trade him multiple times before the season, including a Minnesota trade that only didn't happen because Kessel turned it down.

yes they tried everything to dump JJ before this year. JJ play has been a lot better this year. still getting rid of cap hit would be a good thing.

Riikola is alot more valuable than JJ younger more athletic, cheaper, more room to improve. JJ has been hits leader and shot blocker while covering Letangs ass while dumoulins been out. still dump JJ asap

the logic here tells it all.
"Riikola is so much better than JJ.....but we should wait to do this until Dumo is back"
Why is that? Because JJ is actually playing much better than Riikola would on those top line minutes until Dumo gets back?
I mean right there doesn't that say it all.
I mean if he was so much better why wait. Hell move him now.
But it doesn't make any sense. And even you know it, but you just want to hate on the guy.

Letang has played with Riikola occasionally in the past few games and the results are fine. Rutherford has expressed his preference for seeing how the team looks healthy before making moves. It makes sense that this would happen after Dumoulin comes back, especially because Dumoulin can then jump back on the PK.

Jack Johnson is bad and has a bad contract. He seems like a nice guy but he's bad at hockey. There's a ton of evidence out there that says this. He's literally scored on his own net multiple times this year. He looks terrible by pretty much every metric. I'm sorry that you like him and wish him to do well.

I don't hate him. I just want to be rid of him because he's bad.

"I don't hate him. I just with he wouldn't do well"

go read some click bait press wanting to chase JJ out in your little hate group.

Yes he's an over paid 3rd pairing guy. Many teams have worse players though.

I see you struggle with English as well as having rational thought. You really are the worst user here.

no rational person could read what you wrote and walk away with that interpretation. You can be mad that I point it out but you wrote it.

" I'm sorry that you like him and wish him to do well.

I don't hate him."

Basically says, I wish him to do awful and hate him.

It's ok you are a JJ hater. Just admit it. It's not the PC internet world. You are allowed to not like people.
You clearly hate him, as a player, that's alright.
Admitting a problem is the 1st step to recovery.

Well, yes. I've made it clear that I don't like you very much. And I really dislike the way Jack Johnson plays and the negative impact he has everywhere on the ice.

You seem to want to ignore this evidence due to your bias. You like him. That's ok. But you don't have to ignore reality.

no bias, he was awful last year. Playing on his off side.
But no one can really say that this year. He did ok for a 3rd pairing guy.
Many guys played worse on other teams.
Hell you got guys in this league already in the minus 20s and 30s.
You are complaining about JJ. It could be much worse. Especially how poor some of the goaltending has been.

He played on the left side for half the year last year and was still horrible! There's another example of you just making things up. It's ridiculous.

Many guys other guys in the league being bad is not a good reason to have him on your team if you ideally are one of the top teams. Boston has David Backes. They waived him. You don't have to keep these guys on the roster.

Talking about +/- like that is also very stupid. Put him on a team like Detroit and he would also have an extreme minus. It's a terrible stat to begin with and you make yourself look bad by using it like that.

He's the worst player in the organization that isn't on a <$1 million contract. Getting rid of that is a good thing.


Every time you comment here you fabricate and twist everything. Debate and discourse is ok. What you do is not.

actually he played much better on the Left last year. You make things up.
He went from a -20 something playing on the right last year to like a -3 on his Left.
Clearly there was improvement and most people recognized that last year, but apparently not you.
Hell even started the year off ok with Schultz, which was amazing in itself given how bad Schultz is in the defensive zone. But that got messed up due to injury and then he went to the right side and it was down hill from there till he went back to the Left. Remember how bad it was when they benched him in the playoffs. I mean really, that was so bad it lasted 1 game.
But hey, reality isn't for everyone.

I mean Riikola isn’t a giveaway machine. Idk where you got that? He’s not even averaging 1 giveaway per game. Letang is the giveaway machine on the defense.
But I agree with the rest in that JJ doesn’t have negative value like the typical JJ haters seem to believe.
I’d also be ok with trading him for a similar return that Guddy got too.

He was horrible on both sides last year. Matt Murray was better in the second half of the season and the puck went in a lot less (another reason why plus minus is trash). The other team was still generating lots of chances with him on the ice.

Stop using plus minus. Stop pretending a bad player isn't bad. It really isn't difficult.

Being bad and not being a top pair player are two different things. I'm sorry you don't get that.
He had the fewest number of goals given up on the team when he was on the 3rd pair.
How can you complain about that.
And giving up shots doesn't mean anything. Teams will allow you to have all kinds of garbage shots.
The real issues are how many fast breaks was he allowing the other way, how many really bad turn overs was he at fault for. And the truth is, those numbers were low.
Stop complaining. You act like other teams have Bobby Orr on their 3rd pairing.

Please stop being ignorant. Please stop evaluating players based on goals scored while they are on the ice. Understand that that ice time, shooter performance, goalie performance are things that impact this.

Please understand that there are metrics that tell you how dangerous the shots are when a player is on the ice.

The ignorance is amazing.

It's a really bad player that is a lot worse than a replacement level player. It's really that simple.

You keep saying this. But funny how just about every game I watch he's making solid plays.
But hey, you keep judging him off last year and keep hating him. And I'll keep over here knowing he's played solidly in a 3rd pairing role.
Not that I want to keep a 3rd pairing guy that cost 3+ million a year, I don't. But at least it's not as bad as what a lot of other teams have out on the ice.