Need a backup and some defence

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Créé par: Leafboy101

Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 7 déc. 2019

Publié: 7 déc. 2019

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Rangers trade the value looks good, rangers get a b level center prospect with two way capability, mid round pick in this draft and Hutch was kinda a throw in because leafs would have max of 6 goalies if we kept him so he goes(I know he has 0 value maybe even negative value at this point)

Winnipeg trade I’m not to sure on cause Ceci isn’t bad but he’s not good in my opinion he is an upgrade on the Winnipeg blue line and sending a 4th and retaining salary might help them accept the trade, not sure what poolman’s value is but I’m sure it’s not sky high, maybe leafs send a third instead to make it fair trade? Or does Winnipeg take out there pick to make it fair?

Carolina trade is to get the defence that we need, doubt Carolina would be willing to do this but given there a cheap team maybe they would just to get the first rounder and a high B low A prospect in Bracco, Holl has not a lot of value but he is thrown in to give them a third pairing option on the right side

Transactions

TOR

Poolman, Tucker
Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (WPG)

WPG

Ceci, Cody (1 500 000 $ retained)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (TOR)

TOR

Edmundson, Joel (1 100 000 $ retained)

CAR

Bracco, Jeremy
Holl, Justin
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TOR)

TOR

Georgiev, Alexandar

NYR

Brooks, Adam
Hutchinson, Michael
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CBJ)

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
Cody Ceci: 1 500 000 $ (33.33%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	79 414 643 $	0 $	202 500 $	2 085 357 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Engvall, Pierre 925 000 $925 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston 11 634 000 $11 634 000 $ C UFA - 5	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 5
Mikheyev, Ilya 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell 10 893 000 $10 893 000 $ AD UFA - 6
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 4	Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Timashov, Dmytro 694 444 $694 444 $ (70 000 $$70K) AG UFA - 1		Spezza, Jason 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AD NTC UFA - 1
	Gauthier, Frédérik 675 000 $675 000 $ C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Edmundson, Joel 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Poolman, Tucker 775 000 $775 000 $ DD UFA - 2
Dermott, Travis 863 333 $863 333 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Georgiev, Alexandar 792 500 $792 500 $ (132 500 $$132K) G UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Marincin, Martin 700 000 $700 000 $ DG UFA - 1		Clarkson, David 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Petan, Nicolas 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 2		Horton, Nathan 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Åberg, Pontus 700 000 $700 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1		Moore, Trevor 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
		Johnsson, Andreas 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4

7 déc. 2019 à 9 h 25

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I like Brooks but I think you are overvaluing. He's going to be a goose kind of guy that shows up at the NHL level and then still takes 2-3 years before he has a breakout...if that breakout even happens.

7 déc. 2019 à 9 h 30

Leafboy101

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Quoting: MacerV

He’s a low b center prospect, none the less the trade still has good value to acquire Georgiev

7 déc. 2019 à 9 h 34

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Quoting: Leafboy101

He’s a low b center prospect, none the less the trade still has good value to acquire Georgiev

I don't think Hutchinson and Brooks really carry much value, maybe that of a 3rd combined. so you have a 3rd +4th for Georgiev, which is a couple rounds shy of the general consensus on what he's going to go for.

7 déc. 2019 à 9 h 38

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HockeyFan777

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Quoting: MacerV

Instead of a fourth make it a third and that should be a better trade then

7 déc. 2019 à 10 h 14

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More for Edmundson than Muzzin? Who is this guy and why are we giving away 1sts for him?

7 déc. 2019 à 10 h 33

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WPG says no, Poolman is better than Ceci. He has 5 more points than Ceci and his contract is 5x better lol.

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7 déc. 2019 à 11 h 12

Leafboy101

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HockeyFan777

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Quoting: Goulet

More for Edmundson than Muzzin? Who is this guy and why are we giving away 1sts for him?

Edmundson is a solid defender with a good contract and can be offensive if used properly and Jeremy bracco is probably worth grundstrom but holl is worth nothing also a first is to balance them retaining salary and because he’s worth it

7 déc. 2019 à 11 h 28

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Carolina happily accepts.

Rangers laugh and hang up.

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7 déc. 2019 à 13 h 31

Goulet

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Quoting: Leafboy101

Holl is comparable to Edmundson, decent depth, and yet one is worth a giant package and the other is worth nothing? The reality is salary is the difference between the two and Holl is a fraction of the cost making him more valuable to the team.

7 déc. 2019 à 13 h 41

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Quoting: Goulet

Edmundson is a 2nd pair type. A role he has played on a Cup winner and8s playing on a team loaded defensively.

Holl is a 6/7 type. A role he is playing on a team desperate for D.

No. They are not comparable.

7 déc. 2019 à 15 h 2

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Goulet

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Quoting: Gofnut999

One has a history in the league, one doesn't. Both are currently playing top four, production is nearly identical minus PIMS, size is close, one makes four and a half times more than the other... So yeah, one is a buy low and the other recently got dealt for a buy low because his ceiling is known.

As far as D are concerned, they're very similar. AHL champion versus NHL champion. Know versus unknown.

Rutherford versus Dubas.

7 déc. 2019 à 15 h 9

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Lol ?. Homerism at it’s finest. ?

Would be like me calling Conor Clifton and Brett Pesce comparable, only i’m not foolish enough to think it or consider it.

8 déc. 2019 à 21 h 27

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Lol ?. Homerism at it’s finest. ?

Would be like me calling Conor Clifton and Brett Pesce comparable, only i’m not foolish enough to think it or consider it.

31 teams, 6 defensemen per, we're talking about players that don't crack the top 100. The difference between them isn't worth the conversation.

Dollars remain the deciding factor.

8 déc. 2019 à 21 h 36

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Quoting: Goulet

31 teams, 6 defensemen per, we're talking about players that don't crack the top 100. The difference between them isn't worth the conversation.

Dollars remain the deciding factor.

Except Edmundson does, or right around it anyway, while Holl falls more in the 150-175. That’s the difference.

But ya $ is the difference as well. There is a reason why Edmundson, who is younger, has 300 games under his belt and makes 3m while Holl has 40 games and makes minimum. Because of the gap in talent. ??‍♂️

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