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Créé par: HabsForEver
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 3 déc. 2019
Publié: 3 déc. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Yamamoto, Kailer
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (COL)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (COL)
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (DET)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2681 500 000 $70 756 307 $0 $4 235 000 $10 743 693 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 3
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
G
RFA - 3
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771 666 $771 666 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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743 333 $743 333 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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753 333 $753 333 $
C
UFA - 2
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763 333 $763 333 $ (Bonis de performance70 000 $$70K)
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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3 déc. 2019 à 11 h 59
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Wrong for Tatar, Thompson and Byron
3 déc. 2019 à 12 h 0
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Quoting: Goldninja0
Wrong for Tatar, Thompson and Byron


Tell me their true values if you believe this is wrong
3 déc. 2019 à 12 h 7
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Tell me their true values if you believe this is wrong


Tatar is worth a 1st, Thompson a 6th, and Byron a 4th
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3 déc. 2019 à 12 h 14
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Quoting: Goldninja0
Tatar is worth a 1st, Thompson a 6th, and Byron a 4th


Tatar is a 1st + ... if you remove Yama OR the 2nd it is a fair trade (assuming 1st is lotto protected)
3 déc. 2019 à 12 h 27
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The Avs just gave up Carl Soderberg this summer for a 3rd and a 1.5 mil cap dump. Why would anyone want to take a 30 y.o. guy on pace for 16 pts this year and has surpassed 40 pt once in his entire career at 3.4 mil for 3 more years, for a 2nd and a 4th? And, they say we're all high here... He is maybe worth a 6th and the Avs would not go for that.
3 déc. 2019 à 12 h 31
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Values are estimate only. There is no such thing as knowing the "true value".

If we all agree Tatar is worth "X" and no one in the NHL is willing to pay that price, is he still worth it?

True value = whatever someone is willing to pay. We can estimate the value based on previous trades but that's no guarantee that it is the real value. Just an outline.
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3 déc. 2019 à 12 h 39
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Lmao Tatar is not worth that much habs fans always way overvalue their players cmon
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3 déc. 2019 à 12 h 51
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3 déc. 2019 à 12 h 56
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Tatar is worth a 1st, Thompson a 6th, and Byron a 4th


Then you trade none of them. A near PPG winger on a steal of a contract for this year and next is absolutely worth more than a 1st round pick.

At previous TD's 4th line centers got 2nd round picks. I believe we could easily get a 5th + 6th for Thompson.

If we force traded Byron right now, we would be selling low, but Byron's true value is a 2nd + 4th
3 déc. 2019 à 12 h 57
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Quoting: LittleBuddha
The Avs just gave up Carl Soderberg this summer for a 3rd and a 1.5 mil cap dump. Why would anyone want to take a 30 y.o. guy on pace for 16 pts this year and has surpassed 40 pt once in his entire career at 3.4 mil for 3 more years, for a 2nd and a 4th? And, they say we're all high here... He is maybe worth a 6th and the Avs would not go for that.


Soderberg is 34 Years old making 4.75 Million. Byron is still in his prime and can easily fit on most teams top 9.
3 déc. 2019 à 12 h 58
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
Lmao Tatar is not worth that much habs fans always way overvalue their players cmon


He's nearly a PPG with 2 years left on his contract. He is definitely worth that.
3 déc. 2019 à 12 h 59
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Quoting: HabsForEver
He's nearly a PPG with 2 years left on his contract. He is definitely worth that.


You’d think mtl is the best team in the league the way you evaluate your players that is awful lmao
3 déc. 2019 à 13 h 1
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
You’d think mtl is the best team in the league the way you evaluate your players that is awful lmao


I'm not sure why you would say that. Do you want to try and explain why he isn't worth that package? Bottom 10 team in the league and he can still produce like that as well as play defensively sound....
3 déc. 2019 à 13 h 12
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Soderberg is 34 Years old making 4.75 Million. Byron is still in his prime and can easily fit on most teams top 9.


I realize he has value to MTL. Not to the Avs. I would still rather have Soda back. If you are comparing that way. Soda has only dipped below 40 pts once in his career and is on pace to hit it again. Not vise versa. Sorry if this is his prime good luck with that.
3 déc. 2019 à 13 h 13
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Quoting: LittleBuddha
I realize he has value to MTL. Not to the Avs. I would still rather have Soda back. If you are comparing that way. Soda has only dipped below 40 pts once in his career and is on pace to hit it again. Not vise versa. Sorry if this is his prime good luck with that.


I don't really think it's specifically to the Avs, I just picked a team up in the standings. His prime is 40 points and being one of the fastest players in the league
3 déc. 2019 à 13 h 47
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I'm not sure why you would say that. Do you want to try and explain why he isn't worth that package? Bottom 10 team in the league and he can still produce like that as well as play defensively sound....


You seriously think a avg player is worth Yamamoto a 1st and a 2nd..? Lmao not to think Yamamoto went in the 1st round soooo two 1sts and a 2nd? Wake up
3 déc. 2019 à 13 h 55
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
You seriously think a avg player is worth Yamamoto a 1st and a 2nd..? Lmao not to think Yamamoto went in the 1st round soooo two 1sts and a 2nd? Wake up


Average player? Cmon dude.

Edmonton's draft pick is likely to be #25-31 and #57-#62.

Yamamoto was a former 1st round pick but so was Michael McCarron. Yamamoto is hovering near being a bust so I thought he would be a low value, high reward option
3 déc. 2019 à 19 h 40
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Average player? Cmon dude.

Edmonton's draft pick is likely to be #25-31 and #57-#62.

Yamamoto was a former 1st round pick but so was Michael McCarron. Yamamoto is hovering near being a bust so I thought he would be a low value, high reward option


How can you call Yamamoto a bust you do know not every player gets drafted and makes the nhl right away lmao wow.. keep overvaluing mtl players dude
Go look at Tatar’s pts in his past year and then tell me he’s not avg lmao
3 déc. 2019 à 21 h 6
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
How can you call Yamamoto a bust you do know not every player gets drafted and makes the nhl right away lmao wow.. keep overvaluing mtl players dude
Go look at Tatar’s pts in his past year and then tell me he’s not avg lmao


82 points in 107 games. Average player ok...
3 déc. 2019 à 23 h 5
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Quoting: HabsForEver
82 points in 107 games. Average player ok...


That’s so elite lmao
He’s never had a season where he’s hit 60 pts..
4 déc. 2019 à 11 h 31
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
That’s so elite lmao
He’s never had a season where he’s hit 60 pts..


I never said he was Elite, I just said he's not an average player. I could list "Elite" players that those stats outproduce, but why bother. I already know your response
 
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