Quote: you must be trolling with a trade that poor.
No chance Avs move Duchene for a second pairing D man and late first round pick.
Quote: Fowler stinks, hes only a 2nd pairing Dman, Avs arent moving Dutch for guys like that
Quote: never happen. why on earth would they give up Duchene for Fowler and a pick?
No offense you guys but even if you only consider Fowler a top 4, which he is at the very least, top 4 D don't come cheap at all. Fowler has played top pairing minutes for the Ducks for the last 3 years. He has had to carry bottom pairing defense partners nearly his entire career. Unless you consider Bieksa, Lovejoy, or Allen as top 4 D. Those are his 3 most common partners over the last 4 years. If you want to use shot metrics to determine his ability to play defense then I don't know what to tell you. None of them measure defensive ability. Fowler also out performed all of your D in them anyway. Fowler is great at puck retrieval and zone exits. Fowler also owned Duchene this year in the shot metrics. But yeah, he must be terrible. I'm not saying he doesn't have faults or he is a elite #1, hes not. He is a solid number 2 and when paired with a good shot suppression D, like a healthy Despres was, he can be really effective. Lastly, who do you think the Avs are going to trade for defensive help? The Avs have 2 good D signed and tons of speculation about Barrie. What do you think Barrie is worth? Because Fowler is the better all around player. Besides, if you had read the description, this is all based on the premise that Col trades Barrie and needs to add another D. My guess is Barrie gets you a pretty substantial return. A return that might make moving Duchene hurt less. If you don't think that's the case fine. The rumors earlier in the year were that he could be moved. Tons can change. Look at Drouin in Tampa. If you don't like Fowler as a player sure, but he is far from stinking and being "only a second pairing D."
Quote: Even more comical that you then place him on the third line instead of the wing on the top line/second line lmao
Would you find it less comical if he was on the "second line" with the same line mates? You act like he would get 10 minutes a night because hes the third line. About 1:30 of time sepperated The Ducks number 1 and number 3 center in ES TOI last season. thats like 2 shifts. You're laughing over semantics....
Quote: Shero has made better moves already and unless there is a sweetener (3rd not gonna do it) to take Stoner and give up the next goalie to take over in nj there's no reason to do this
Fair enough, I was just trying to clear some cap space and get some kind of usable asset. I'd be fine just dumping him for a late pick.