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Créé par: Shipton19
Équipe: 2019-20 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 28 oct. 2019
Publié: 28 oct. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Erne, Adam
  2. Green, Mike (1 375 000 $ retained)
  3. Rasmussen, Michael
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (DET)
DET
  1. Benning, Matthew
  2. Gagner, Sam
  3. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
2.
3.
4.
EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Archibald, Josh
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
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2021
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2022
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2381 500 000 $75 620 332 $0 $2 620 000 $5 879 668 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 150 000 $2 150 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 950 000 $1 950 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
746 667 $746 667 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 312 500 $1 312 500 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 750 000 $$2M)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
725 000 $725 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2

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28 oct. 2019 à 21 h 4
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Just stop. That Detroit trade is awful.
28 oct. 2019 à 21 h 9
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Gagner doesn't fit Detroit's rebuild, So no thanks. Benning hasn't proven a thing nor has Puljujarvi proven anything. Doubt Green would waive for Edmonton. Michael Rasmussen probably becomes Detroit's #3C down the road so no thanks. Zero chance of Yzerman dealing Erne after just acquiring him. This is bad for Detroit and no way we make this deal.
28 oct. 2019 à 21 h 9
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Quoting: CD282
Just stop. That Detroit trade is awful.


Eh
Rasmussen - Puljujarvi
Green < 1st
Erne - Benning
28 oct. 2019 à 21 h 12
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Gagner doesn't fit Detroit's rebuild, So no thanks. Benning hasn't proven a thing nor has Puljujarvi proven anything. Doubt Green would waive for Edmonton. Michael Rasmussen probably becomes Detroit's #3C down the road so no thanks. Zero chance of Yzerman dealing Erne after just acquiring him. This is bad for Detroit and no way we make this deal.


This trade isnt meant to help Detroit immediately but
Rasmussen - Puljujarvi 
Green < 1st
Erne - Benning
And Puljujarvi has potential to be a top 6 forward still, so this could easily be a great deal for Det
28 oct. 2019 à 21 h 17
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Wow that Detroit trade is brutal for the Oilers.
Shibbal18 et CD282 a aimé ceci.
28 oct. 2019 à 21 h 39
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I really don't see Detroit trading Rasmussen at least until next season. I have no problem with the Wings moving Green or Erne. Gagner has NO value to Detroit he is gone at the end of the season. Benning could work.

I'm going to say sorry and this is just my opinion but Puljujarvi has proven he is nothing more than a bottom 6 forward and if Detroit traded for him it would be a hugh mistake. He is a 3rd line player who demanded a trade and when he didn't get his way he took his ball and went home. My dislike starts and ends with Puljujarvi. I have nothing against Edmonton their other players of their fans. I just don't like him.
28 oct. 2019 à 22 h 31
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Eh
Rasmussen - Puljujarvi
Green < 1st
Erne - Benning


Green is a 34 year old rental who plays 3rd pair. No possible way a 1st is involved in this trade.

And Erne is nowhere near the value of Benning. A 20 point winger does not have equal value to a 20 point RHD.
28 oct. 2019 à 23 h 41
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Green is a 34 year old rental who plays 3rd pair. No possible way a 1st is involved in this trade.

And Erne is nowhere near the value of Benning. A 20 point winger does not have equal value to a 20 point RHD.


The first part i agreed with you. The second part Erne is more than his points, he knows his role. Benning is an ok bottom pair dman, they have similar value
29 oct. 2019 à 7 h 24
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Quoting: Shibbal18
The first part i agreed with you.


I know, I was just reinforcing the point.

Quoting: Shibbal18
The second part Erne is more than his points, he knows his role. Benning is an ok bottom pair dman, they have similar value


No they don't. Benning is a very good 3rd pairing right-shot defenseman and pretty good when playing up the lineup in the top-4. See comment #7 in this thread for more info:

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/233122

If you look at goal differential since the beginning of the 2016-17 season, you'll see who is "winning" their minutes and who isn't.

Erne: 41 GF - 45 GA (47.67%)
Benning: 142 GF - 116 GA (55.04%)

Goal differential relative to teammates is even more important, because Erne spent most of this time on the best team in the league and Benning did not.

Erne: -4.27 GF% Rel (16-19) / -50.00 GF% Rel (19-20)
Benning: +6.78 GF% Rel (16-19) / +30.00 GF% Rel (19-20)

Another way to measure game impact is Goals Above Replacement, or GAR. Here are their numbers for the past 3 years:

Adam Erne
16-17: -2.0
17-18: +1.1
18-19: +2.9
Total: +2.0

Matt Benning
16-17: +8.6
17-18: +5.4
18-19: +10.6
Total: +24.6

GAR/60 shows the game impact adjusted for ice-time, useful because Erne wasn't a full-time NHLer until last year:

Erne: 0.104 (#20 on his team among forwards who played over 100 minutes)
Benning: 0.493 (#1 on his team for defensemen who played over 100 minutes)


And this is without touching the fact that depth wingers don't hold nearly the same value as RHD. Erne was just traded for a 4th round pick, Benning is likely worth a high-2nd.
 
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