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Créé par: Johnjohn
Équipe: 2019-20 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 15 sept. 2019
Publié: 15 sept. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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2381 500 000 $80 023 331 $0 $1 362 500 $1 476 669 $
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
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UFA - 6
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
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UFA - 7
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
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700 000 $700 000 $
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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700 000 $700 000 $
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697 500 $697 500 $ (Bonis de performance147 500 $$148K)
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23 sept. 2019 à 16 h 41
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Quoting: Johnjohn
3 years at 7.5 with 3rd year at 10 for qualifying offer
5 or 6 years at a max of 9 million
No 4 year deals because I explained before nobody will do that anymore and 7 or 8 is stupid unless a huge overpayment which Tampa won’t do


He even got less on a 3 year deal with a 9 million dollar qualifying offer and 6.75
There is 3 or 4 contributors to this site that post constantly about stuff they have no clue about
We have one right here on this post
Wonder who?
23 sept. 2019 à 16 h 45
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the arrogance here is just oozing
I hope TB knows how to handle it's players sitting out


Any comments now Pharrow....don’t think so
Maybe Random 2152 can explain how contacts work to you lol
23 sept. 2019 à 19 h 50
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It is though. I straight up said TB has a history of giving out 3 year bridge contract to guys coming off of ELC's.

The point is that just because Toronto does things there way does not mean another team has to follow suit. So far Marner and Matthew's are the only RFA's who got both the term and AAV they wanted. No other team in the league is operating that way, you want less term? Ok we are lowering your AAV. You want a high AAV? Ok but we are signing you to 8 years so it is worth the investment.

Toronto failed to do that.


You were saying that Toronto contract situation was because of Matthews as a comparable. I responded that team only comparables are not how contracts work and you come back with an entirely new argument as if it was the same one you were making all along.
My response is still accurate. Team only comparables do not exist. What happened here is an anchoring failure by points agent (at least from what we know from public info) and a player who wanted to play more than get a fair contract.

And 6 years is term, wtf are you talking about? The **** outa here with this Toronto failed to get term ****.
23 sept. 2019 à 19 h 53
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Quoting: Johnjohn
Any comments now Pharrow....don’t think so
Maybe Random 2152 can explain how contacts work to you lol


Boy was @pharrow right about you. An arrogant moron who thinks he is the **** and feels the need to Lord over the rest of us. Get over yourself.
23 sept. 2019 à 21 h 16
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Again you no nothing about hockey. Stick to broom ball lol
23 sept. 2019 à 23 h 41
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You were saying that Toronto contract situation was because of Matthews as a comparable. I responded that team only comparables are not how contracts work and you come back with an entirely new argument as if it was the same one you were making all along.
My response is still accurate. Team only comparables do not exist. What happened here is an anchoring failure by points agent (at least from what we know from public info) and a player who wanted to play more than get a fair contract.

And 6 years is term, wtf are you talking about? The **** outa here with this Toronto failed to get term ****.


I elaborated on my first post. I said Marner gets that much because his team paid that much to Matthew's. I said Marner would not get that in TB.

You said that isn't how contracts work.

I elaborated: teams have different ways of doing things. Toronto gives out stupid contracts, TB gives out 3 year prove it bridge deals.

6 years is 2 less than it should have been for Marner. 5 years is 3 less than it should have been for Matthews.

In 3 years Point is gonna be an RFA and ask for what? $11M? In 5 years what is Matthews going to ask for? I bet he will want a lot more than $11.6M. I bet he doesn't stay in Toronto either.
24 sept. 2019 à 6 h 43
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Quoting: CaptainFlynnt
I elaborated on my first post. I said Marner gets that much because his team paid that much to Matthew's. I said Marner would not get that in TB.

You said that isn't how contracts work.

I elaborated: teams have different ways of doing things. Toronto gives out stupid contracts, TB gives out 3 year prove it bridge deals.

6 years is 2 less than it should have been for Marner. 5 years is 3 less than it should have been for Matthews.

In 3 years Point is gonna be an RFA and ask for what? $11M? In 5 years what is Matthews going to ask for? I bet he will want a lot more than $11.6M. I bet he doesn't stay in Toronto either.


Were just gonna have to agree to disagree here m8. I don't think this convo is going anywhere lol.
 
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