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Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 7 août 2019
Publié: 7 août 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Can you buyout a player and then re-sign him for less??
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RFAANSCAP HIT
42 750 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Gudbranson, Erik
32 000 000 $
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UFA - 5
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
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UFA - 3
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NTC
UFA - 4
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
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C, AD
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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DG
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DD
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UFA - 3
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Gudbranson, Erik
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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C, AG
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7 août 2019 à 8 h 3
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No you can't. You need to wait at least one year. Also, PIT doesn't have a second buyout window. Most importantly, if you sign Erik Gudbranson, it already tells us you don't wanna win
7 août 2019 à 8 h 3
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No you can't. You need to wait at least one year. Also, PIT doesn't have a second buyout window. Most importantly, if you sign Erik Gudbranson, it already tells us you don't wanna win
7 août 2019 à 8 h 3
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No you can't. You need to wait at least one year. Also, PIT doesn't have a second buyout window. Most importantly, if you sign Erik Gudbranson, it already tells us you don't wanna win
7 août 2019 à 8 h 6
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Ok
7 août 2019 à 8 h 6
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7 août 2019 à 8 h 6
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7 août 2019 à 8 h 9
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Quoting: bhavikp27
No you can't. You need to wait at least one year. Also, PIT doesn't have a second buyout window. Most importantly, if you sign Erik Gudbranson, it already tells us you don't wanna win


What's wrong with Gudbranson? I thought he played good with Petterson last year after we got him
7 août 2019 à 8 h 10
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No you can't. You need to wait at least one year. Also, PIT doesn't have a second buyout window. Most importantly, if you sign Erik Gudbranson, it already tells us you don't wanna win
7 août 2019 à 8 h 12
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Quoting: bhavikp27
No you can't. You need to wait at least one year. Also, PIT doesn't have a second buyout window. Most importantly, if you sign Erik Gudbranson, it already tells us you don't wanna win


Aston-Reese filed for arbitration. Their second buyout window is open, but being a team that has never used a buyout/compliance buyout it is highly unlikely they use it.

And it wouldn't make sense to buyout Gudbranson for 1.25mil cap relief this year and then lose an additional .25mil in cap next year (total cap hit for buyout and contract would be 4.25mil)
7 août 2019 à 8 h 21
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Quoting: DrZaius_PhD
Aston-Reese filed for arbitration. Their second buyout window is open, but being a team that has never used a buyout/compliance buyout it is highly unlikely they use it.

And it wouldn't make sense to buyout Gudbranson for 1.25mil cap relief this year and then lose an additional .25mil in cap next year (total cap hit for buyout and contract would be 4.25mil)


You need two arbitration cases
7 août 2019 à 8 h 25
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Quoting: bhavikp27
You need two arbitration cases


Arbitration was player elected, so they only needed one. But it has been a multiple days since it was resolved. So the window is now closed (most likely)
7 août 2019 à 9 h 0
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makes no sense cap wise.
7 août 2019 à 9 h 7
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Yes you can sign a guy you bought out. However the buyout period is long gone for PIT.

"For one season following a compliance buyout, players were not permitted to rejoin the team which performed the buyout (this restriction does not exist for normal buyouts)."

https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-faq
7 août 2019 à 10 h 0
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: bhavikp27
No you can't. You need to wait at least one year. Also, PIT doesn't have a second buyout window. Most importantly, if you sign Erik Gudbranson, it already tells us you don't wanna win


Yes you can.... Indirectly. wink

If you trade the player to a team that buys him out immediately, you can then resign him right away because you are not the team registering the buyout. Of course this gentleman agreement include compensation for the team doing the buyout.

See: Orpik, Brooks
7 août 2019 à 11 h 11
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Yes you can.... Indirectly. wink

If you trade the player to a team that buys him out immediately, you can then resign him right away because you are not the team registering the buyout. Of course this gentleman agreement include compensation for the team doing the buyout.

See: Orpik, Brooks


Ok but it's not your team that bought him out

Orpik was sent from WSH to COL to be bought out by COL, not WSH.

You didn't even understand lol
7 août 2019 à 11 h 18
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You know nothing JS
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Ok but it's not your team that bought him out

Orpik was sent from WSH to COL to be bought out by COL, not WSH.

You didn't even understand lol


I think you are so zealous to tell me Im wrong that you didn't tried to understand my explanation.

We are saying the same thing. The buyout was made by the second team. But the result, Orpik bought out and resigned on a lesser contrat by his original team, is the same. Hence the use of the word "indirectly".
7 août 2019 à 13 h 52
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I think you are so zealous to tell me Im wrong that you didn't tried to understand my explanation.

We are saying the same thing. The buyout was made by the second team. But the result, Orpik bought out and resigned on a lesser contrat by his original team, is the same. Hence the use of the word "indirectly".


Indeed, it's indirectly. But if someone asks " Can you buyout a player and then re-sign him for less? ", you answer directly

Unless you answered indirectly to everyone in your life tears of joy
 
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