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Pat kane came out of his ELC with 230 points. His next contract was 6.3m for 5 years which was 11.06% of the cap. Marner came out with 224 points in 3 less games. Not a huge difference. If he signed a 5 year deal for the same cap% it would be 9.01m. Leafs obviously don’t want 5 years so 3 would work. Marner seems fine with a 3 year deal considering he just offered one to Toronto. it would have to be a little less money but probably not by much to make it fair because of a shorter term so wouldn’t a 3 year deal around 8.5-8.75 be fair. Give me your honest opinions.
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4 août 2019 à 20 h 8
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The difference is toews hadn’t just signed a bigger deal before Kane signed his.
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4 août 2019 à 20 h 9
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IMO yes.
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4 août 2019 à 20 h 10
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
The difference is toews hadn’t just signed a bigger deal before Kane signed his.


He signed the exact same amount which I understand your point
4 août 2019 à 20 h 13
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5×9 would be perfect, considering kane played a huge part in a championship before his ELC even ended
4 août 2019 à 20 h 26
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5×9 would be perfect, considering kane played a huge part in a championship before his ELC even ended


Not perfect for Toronto tho 3/6/7/8 is what they want
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4 août 2019 à 20 h 49
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I could see 9M/3yrs. It's an big overpay, but apparently AM had a similar three year offer in the 9Ms, IIRC. That should satisfy Marner's need to get the same treatment as Austin.

I can't see the leafs offering a 4 or 5 yr deal, and it appears Marner doesn't want a 7 or 8 yr deal. A 3 or 6 seems most likely to me. That, or he ends up sitting
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4 août 2019 à 20 h 52
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Depends on the structure. I think 9.5 is a fair contract for Marner. But if you structure it like this it would be fair but because he is asking for $50M per year on a 4 year deal he wouldn't accept
Year 1 - $8M - 7.3 SB
Year 2 - $8M - 7.3 SB
Year 3 - $11M - 10.3 SB
$9M AAV and year 3 would give him an $11M QO on a one year taking him straight to UFA if he accepted
4 août 2019 à 21 h 2
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Depends on the structure. I think 9.5 is a fair contract for Marner. But if you structure it like this it would be fair but because he is asking for $50M per year on a 4 year deal he wouldn't accept
Year 1 - $8M - 7.3 SB
Year 2 - $8M - 7.3 SB
Year 3 - $11M - 10.3 SB
$9M AAV and year 3 would give him an $11M QO on a one year taking him straight to UFA if he accepted


Or not structure it like that so he doesn’t accept
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4 août 2019 à 21 h 14
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It's fair, I just worry about trying to re-sign both Rielly and Marner in the same off-season. I would assume Kapanen gets traded for pick(s) or an elc player, I would think that Johnsson would be moved as well (depending on what happens to Andersen in 2 years).
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4 août 2019 à 21 h 16
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I think that number is very fair for the three year term.
4 août 2019 à 21 h 29
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So you suggest 8.75m for 3 years. Matthews signed for 11.642 for five. Aho which is very comparable to Marner 8.45m for five. Hence the conflict, Marner thinks he as valuable as Matthew (and he might be) so he thinks 10m X 3 is fair, Leafs probably think 7.75m X 3 is fair. And here we are five weeks away from training camp.

Not saying you number is wrong, but just showing the the justifiable variables in any deal.
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So you suggest 8.75m for 3 years. Matthews signed for 11.642 for five. Aho which is very comparable to Marner 8.45m for five. Hence the conflict, Marner thinks he as valuable as Matthew (and he might be) so he thinks 10m X 3 is fair, Leafs probably think 7.75m X 3 is fair. And here we are five weeks away from training camp.

Not saying you number is wrong, but just showing the the justifiable variables in any deal.


Oh trust me I know I just came across kane because he’s a very similar player
4 août 2019 à 21 h 40
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Or not structure it like that so he doesn’t accept


It could be a 10.5 at the end if you'd prefer. I just think it's the best way for Marner to get paid and the Leafs to get under the cap
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4 août 2019 à 21 h 42
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It could be a 10.5 at the end if you'd prefer. I just think it's the best way for Marner to get paid and the Leafs to get under the cap


Also walks him to free agency
4 août 2019 à 22 h 13
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The difference is toews hadn’t just signed a bigger deal before Kane signed his.


At the time they signed the contract, probably Toews was the best player on the Hawks. But hard to argue when they both won 3 cups and a Conn Smythe.
4 août 2019 à 22 h 20
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Also walks him to free agency


How?
5 août 2019 à 2 h 53
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
At the time they signed the contract, probably Toews was the best player on the Hawks. But hard to argue when they both won 3 cups and a Conn Smythe.


Marner isn’t the best leaf?
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How?


Signs the qo
5 août 2019 à 7 h 20
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Signs the qo


Okay. By walk him to ufa I thought you meant it walks him to ufa
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5 août 2019 à 10 h 41
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Also walks him to free agency


Any contract Marner is going to get will be no longer than 5 years anyway so might as well do something like this to keep the cap hit low
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
Any contract Marner is going to get will be no longer than 5 years anyway so might as well do something like this to keep the cap hit low


Has some interest in 6. Just not first option
5 août 2019 à 10 h 43
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Has some interest in 6. Just not first option


Really? I didn't know that.
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5 août 2019 à 10 h 50
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Really? I didn't know that.


Neither does he
5 août 2019 à 10 h 50
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Neither does he


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