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Going after Connor

Créé par: CJBear71
Équipe: 2019-20 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 25 juill. 2019
Publié: 25 juill. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
In theory, both Connor and Laine could be gone after with consecutive offer sheets once the season starts, and WPG would be in a difficult position. But that likely entails giving them both successive offer sheets with the maximum compensation (4-1st). This is to explore whether Detroit could get Connor with the 2nd level compensation (2-1sts, 1-2nd, and 1-3rd) by adding Taro Hirose in the trade. I'd consider offering Bertuzzi instead, but not Mantha, Athanasiou, Cholowski or Hronek.


This is to explore thoughts on the trade, not line combinations at this point.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
69 000 000 $
31 000 000 $
31 000 000 $
Transactions
DET
  1. Connor, Kyle [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Creating this trade so that it is the same as an offer sheet in the $8.5M - $10.5M (approx.) range, but Detroit can offer Taro Hirose as an inducement for the trade to go through.
WPG
  1. Hirose, Taro
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (DET)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (DET)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (DET)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (DET)
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $71 667 498 $145 000 $3 407 500 $9 832 502 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 7
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6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
UFA - 4
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3 300 000 $3 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
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900 000 $900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
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2 687 500 $2 687 500 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 100 000 $$1M)
G
UFA - 1
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894 166 $894 166 $
DG
RFA - 2
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3 166 666 $3 166 666 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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714 166 $714 166 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DD
RFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
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3 954 545 $3 954 545 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
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6 083 333 $6 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2

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25 juill. 2019 à 13 h 39
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Bad idea for both teams.
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25 juill. 2019 à 13 h 45
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Quoting: feds91stammer
Bad idea for both teams.


I don't know. Kyle Connor is a really great player, and I got this idea after the Athletic published a story about an all-Michigan team based on current players. Their hypothetical top line was Connor-Larkin-DeBrincat. The last part of that line is impossible - no way Chicago ever lets him go. But Connor-Larkin is possible right now. Although this is the max I would give up. I wouldn't go 4-1st.
25 juill. 2019 à 13 h 47
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I don't know. Kyle Connor is a really great player, and I got this idea after the Athletic published a story about an all-Michigan team based on current players. Their hypothetical top line was Connor-Larkin-DeBrincat. The last part of that line is impossible - no way Chicago ever lets him go. But Connor-Larkin is possible right now. Although this is the max I would give up. I wouldn't go 4-1st.


You gave up two lottery picks in the process. One of which could become Lafreniere. I get that adding Connor is an exciting idea but that team is still not a playoff team.
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25 juill. 2019 à 14 h 1
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No need to offer a trade, Winnipeg will happily take the unprotected lottery picks while Detroit massively overpays for Connor via an offer sheet. No need to OS Laine first.
25 juill. 2019 à 14 h 51
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Quoting: feds91stammer
You gave up two lottery picks in the process. One of which could become Lafreniere. I get that adding Connor is an exciting idea but that team is still not a playoff team.


A good point - I realize it is a risk. But at the same time, you only get an 18.5% chance of getting the top pick at best, even if you are the worst team in the league. In return for two of those 18.5% chances, you get a proven 30+ goal scorer and 60-70 point player who is 22 years old.

With Connor on the Red Wings, I think the chances of them getting the 1st pick would be miniscule - this team would probably just miss the playoffs at worst. In fact, if Mantha, Athanasiou, and Bertuzzi can stay health and have good years, I think we are going to still be about a 10th place finisher in the conference. Unfortunately, I don't think we can make the playoffs without overhauling the defense and goaltending, and that will take some of these contracts to expire at the end of the season / be traded at the deadline.
25 juill. 2019 à 15 h 25
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A good point - I realize it is a risk. But at the same time, you only get an 18.5% chance of getting the top pick at best, even if you are the worst team in the league. In return for two of those 18.5% chances, you get a proven 30+ goal scorer and 60-70 point player who is 22 years old.

With Connor on the Red Wings, I think the chances of them getting the 1st pick would be miniscule - this team would probably just miss the playoffs at worst. In fact, if Mantha, Athanasiou, and Bertuzzi can stay health and have good years, I think we are going to still be about a 10th place finisher in the conference. Unfortunately, I don't think we can make the playoffs without overhauling the defense and goaltending, and that will take some of these contracts to expire at the end of the season / be traded at the deadline.


Defense is still suspect and you are one Howard groin injury away from being a bottom 3 team again.
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25 juill. 2019 à 16 h 37
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Hell no way i'm dealing both 2020 and 2021 1st round picks, As both picks are probably be lottery picks. And 2020 could possibly be Lafreniere no way i'm giving up that much for Kyle Connor. Would love to bring him home. But not at this cost.
 
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