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Signing the rfas to realistic contracts

Créé par: mlbrunner16
Équipe: 2019-20 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 10 juill. 2019
Publié: 10 juill. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Less than what those players are actually worth but they sell low due to having no other options. I think namestnikov is a very good fit with EDM as he had shown that when he is playing with superstar talent, he puts up really solid numbers. If not he fills out pretty much anywhere that they need him to play. He is a swiss army knife type of player and pool party is on the way out of town regardless. Strome is a casualty of the cap. He played very well with the NYR last season and is worth somewhere around a second round pick to the correct team but they sell low on him to get under the cap. No buyouts unless there are no other options. Everyone keeps suggesting that shatty should be bought out, which is ridiculous. He is a top 4 dman on most teams that's suffered from terrible luck. The first one I would buy out would be staal but, again, I do not see any buyouts happening unless there are no other options.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
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  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
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  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav (500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
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10 juill. 2019 à 18 h 33
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Holland stated that he'll trade Puljujärvi only to either as good or better prospect or an established player with several years left on his contract.

Namestnikov fits in neither of those categories.
10 juill. 2019 à 18 h 38
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Holland stated that he'll trade Puljujärvi only to either as good or better prospect or an established player with several years left on his contract.

Namestnikov fits in neither of those categories.


Nobody is going to be willing to part with anything crazy for him as he looks like a bust already. They are however going to be getting back a top 9 winger on a pretty cheap deal, with the salary retained, and they can extend him if he is a fit. Almost no risk for EDM as pool party leaves to go to Europe if not traded.
10 juill. 2019 à 19 h 0
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Buch contract is short 1-2M. Doubt Trouba signs that low either, but possible. Puji and Namestnikov deal is horrible for EDM, no way that one goes down.
10 juill. 2019 à 19 h 24
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Buch contract is short 1-2M. Doubt Trouba signs that low either, but possible. Puji and Namestnikov deal is horrible for EDM, no way that one goes down.


Buch contract is exactly what evolving wild is guessing on a 2 year deal and trouba is also on par with evolving wild for a 7 yr deal. Just because a guy says "i want 8M a year" does not mean he gets that amount. As far as the EDM trade goes they are trading a bust of a player and getting someone proven back. Pool party has put up 39 pts in 3 seasons total... playing with a talented group of forwards...I personally would like to see what a change of scenery does but all signs point to him being a bust.
10 juill. 2019 à 19 h 28
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Nobody is going to be willing to part with anything crazy for him as he looks like a bust already. They are however going to be getting back a top 9 winger on a pretty cheap deal, with the salary retained, and they can extend him if he is a fit. Almost no risk for EDM as pool party leaves to go to Europe if not traded.


If he looks like a bust and the Namestnikov deal is so good then why do the trade in the first place?
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10 juill. 2019 à 19 h 35
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Quoting: Frank_Booth
If he looks like a bust and the Namestnikov deal is so good then why do the trade in the first place?


Simple... cap space. The rangers have also taken a lot of reclamation projects from Edmonton over the years and they seem to find their games under the bright lights of MSG.
10 juill. 2019 à 20 h 2
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I've seen these Namestnikov for Pulujarvi trades on here a few times now, someone remind me does Chiarelli still manage the Oilers? lol

Whether or not Pulujarvi is a bust, it's doubtful the Oilers want to trade him for the Rangers UFA cap dump.
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10 juill. 2019 à 20 h 25
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Buch contract is exactly what evolving wild is guessing on a 2 year deal and trouba is also on par with evolving wild for a 7 yr deal. Just because a guy says "i want 8M a year" does not mean he gets that amount. As far as the EDM trade goes they are trading a bust of a player and getting someone proven back. Pool party has put up 39 pts in 3 seasons total... playing with a talented group of forwards...I personally would like to see what a change of scenery does but all signs point to him being a bust.


Who cares what some random site predicts? Heinen, another 24 year old winger, just signed for 2.8M over 2 years and he didn’t net 20 goals this past season. Buch gets between 3-4M or he should fire his agent.

I agree Trouba probably won’t get 8M. 7-7.5M sounds about right.

Puji hasn’t panned out, but I doubt EDM moves him for an overpaid 3rd liner, especially if they’re doing you a favour and giving you cap space. I don’t see it your way. I mean, would you trade 20 year old, former top 5 pick who has struggled for an overpaid 3rd line winger? I wouldn’t. In fact, if they were top 5, I’d wait until I was sure they were busts before moving them.
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10 juill. 2019 à 20 h 44
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Nobody is going to be willing to part with anything crazy for him as he looks like a bust already. They are however going to be getting back a top 9 winger on a pretty cheap deal, with the salary retained, and they can extend him if he is a fit. Almost no risk for EDM as pool party leaves to go to Europe if not traded.


He's pulling nothing crazy, but a pending UFA with decreasing numbers is extremely lackluster trade for EDM. They can, and probably will do better than that.

Also there's nothing that points on Namestnikov signing with EDM after the year. Based on how bad the team has been lately. it isn't exactly the most tempting place to play in.
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Quoting: mytduxfan
Who cares what some random site predicts? Heinen, another 24 year old winger, just signed for 2.8M over 2 years and he didn’t net 20 goals this past season. Buch gets between 3-4M or he should fire his agent.

I agree Trouba probably won’t get 8M. 7-7.5M sounds about right.

Puji hasn’t panned out, but I doubt EDM moves him for an overpaid 3rd liner, especially if they’re doing you a favour and giving you cap space. I don’t see it your way. I mean, would you trade 20 year old, former top 5 pick who has struggled for an overpaid 3rd line winger? I wouldn’t. In fact, if they were top 5, I’d wait until I was sure they were busts before moving them.


Listen in a year or two, if lias andersson,7th OA pick, still has not become a solidified nhler, I would gladly trade him away for a guy like namestnikov at 3.5M a yr and see if he can mesh with the high end talent on the team.
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Listen in a year or two, if lias andersson,7th OA pick, still has not become a solidified nhler, I would gladly trade him away for a guy like namestnikov at 3.5M a yr and see if he can mesh with the high end talent on the team.


Listen the thing is guys line up to play in NY but they usually don't in Edmonton so trading Pulujarvi even if he's a bust for a guy that's probably gonna walk just isn't good asset management for the Oilers, they'd be better off to get a pick or a guy with some term then trading a former 4th overall pick for a rental.
10 juill. 2019 à 21 h 4
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
He's pulling nothing crazy, but a pending UFA with decreasing numbers is extremely lackluster trade for EDM. They can, and probably will do better than that.

Also there's nothing that points on Namestnikov signing with EDM after the year. Based on how bad the team has been lately. it isn't exactly the most tempting place to play in.


His numbers decreased because his role changed to a more well rounded 2 way player. That's why I was saying that hes like a swiss army knife type player who can play on any line. When he played with tampa on their skill line, he was on pace for 60 to 70 points and then came into a NYR organization that was rebuilding and didnt have talent up front. Put him with mcjesus and draisaitl and guarantee that he puts up 70 pts. Not to mention if he doesn't, he can play down in the lineup and play as a pen killer and forechecker. These are the types of players that can help a franchise like EDM and it's why they have been so terrible... they don't have players like that.
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His numbers decreased because his role changed to a more well rounded 2 way player. That's why I was saying that hes like a swiss army knife type player who can play on any line. When he played with tampa on their skill line, he was on pace for 60 to 70 points and then came into a NYR organization that was rebuilding and didnt have talent up front. Put him with mcjesus and draisaitl and guarantee that he puts up 70 pts. Not to mention if he doesn't, he can play down in the lineup and play as a pen killer and forechecker. These are the types of players that can help a franchise like EDM and it's why they have been so terrible... they don't have players like that.


If Namestnikov is truly that good, TB wouldn't have moved him. He was carried by playing with greater guys like Stammer and Kuch. After being moved, his numbers collapsed. But if you think that he's a great asset, then just keep him.

EDM as a team doesn't have that much cap space either, so a cap dump moving other to NYR pretty much need to be included.
10 juill. 2019 à 21 h 41
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If Namestnikov is truly that good, TB wouldn't have moved him. He was carried by playing with greater guys like Stammer and Kuch. After being moved, his numbers collapsed. But if you think that he's a great asset, then just keep him.

EDM as a team doesn't have that much cap space either, so a cap dump moving other to NYR pretty much need to be included.


You do remember they got back ryan McDonough and JT Miller in that deal right... they didnt throw him away for nothing lol. As I said I would love to keep him, he just doesn't fit their timeline or their cap unfortunately.
10 juill. 2019 à 21 h 44
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You do remember they got back ryan McDonough and JT Miller in that deal right... they didnt throw him away for nothing lol. As I said I would love to keep him, he just doesn't fit their timeline or their cap unfortunately.


They would've probably drop Miller out of the move. They've already traded him, u know. They weren't too high on him, either.
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They would've probably drop Miller out of the move. They've already traded him, u know. They weren't too high on him, either.


And got back a 1st round pick plus from a lottery team...
10 juill. 2019 à 23 h 3
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And got back a 1st round pick plus from a lottery team...


Unlikely. I'd say VAN is very close being a playoff team. That roster looks pretty good now that they've landed Ferland.
11 juill. 2019 à 2 h 15
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Listen in a year or two, if lias andersson,7th OA pick, still has not become a solidified nhler, I would gladly trade him away for a guy like namestnikov at 3.5M a yr and see if he can mesh with the high end talent on the team.


How short-sighted of you. Don’t think many teams would agree with such an approach.
 
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