Marner is gonna be 10.5 or more maybe after seeing what panarin got he will want 11+, think I saw Cody ceci and leafs talk about a 4-4.5 mill so that’s close and I think kerfoot will be 3.5

They've gotten worse at several positions and only better at maybe 4C? I want to live in the world where that's a good offseason.

I think he gets somewhere between Aho and Panarin probably 6 years and 10.5

Ceci can't make less then 4.3 but him and dubas have worked out a 1 year 4.5 just haven't signed it yet because of Marner

This deal works for Marner, but do you really want to walk him to ufa in four years?

I take it your a habs fan? Because everyone knows that the Leafs won July 1st. Salty much! Lol

Yeah, I dunno. I tend to think Marner's bluff kinda got called with the Aho situation. We'll see

Might wanna wait until he has a contract first

0% chance Marner gets 4 years. That walks him right into UFA

Hence the "we'll see.."

That Avs trade was a steal. Not out of the woods yet though. Ceci has to get at least 4.5. Unless the QO does not carry over with trade.

They had a good offseason from the perspective that they didn't have to trade anyone (tbd on Marner) important but are they better off than the start of the playoffs this year? I'd argue no and don't think it's close.

All three of the proposed contracts are too low

What happens when Barrie and Muzzin need new contracts?

It seems the Leafs cap woes will become apparent next offseason as well. Should be interesting to see how it’s handled.

I guess you missed the Ottawa and Colorado deals? Take a look at the roster and ask yourself honestly if you don't think we got better or if your just being salty!

I think we both know the real answer

They already have a deal worked out 1 year @ 4.5 just waiting on Marner to make it official.

Barrie is likely a rental, at least that's how I'm viewing it. As far as Muzzin goes we shall see.

Ya, that was reported right after the trade.

Barrie < Gardiner
Kerfoot < Kadri
Ceci < Zaitsev

I'll give you Spezza > Goat but come on now

Nah

Barrie > Gards (plus he's a righty, so >>
Kardi > Kerfoot (but time might have a say in that)
Ceci = Z (when you play on a bad team you get bad results.. let's give it the year)
Spezza>>>>>>>>>>Goat

Ultimately..

Babs<< all his favorite toys and assistant coaches taken away... (it's gonna being super interesting to see how he coaches the team this year)

Yup, you hit the nail right on the head.

i think they only really got marginally worse at 3C maybe 3LW .. where else did they get worse?? 4th line as a whole is better, ceci = zaitsev ... barrie is way better than hainsley i think we balanced out our Defence to allow for 1 of Sandin or Lili to come up and challenge for a spot.

They're worse at 3C, Ceci is worse than Zaitsev on ice (the contract is better), Barrie is worse than Gardiner. I'd be very surprised if the prospects play a lot this year, I'd bet it's a mix of Harpur/Marincin.