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Créé par: Shibbal18
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 28 juin 2019
Publié: 28 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
33 000 000 $
510 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
2900 000 $
Transactions
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TOR
  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. Thompson, Tage
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
2020 1st round pick is top 10 protected
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28 juin 2019 à 0 h 39
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kinda makes sense
Petry's better then Zaitsev thought
Weber was down and Petry was playing 25-27 minutes thrivng .
its fair to say Weber's injury gave him the chance to show he had more to offer .


Muzzin just seems like a good anchor for 2nd pair with Petry gone .
Mete-Weber up top and Muzzin-Juulsen on 2nd followed by Kulak -Brook on Bottom .
with Romanov up in 2020 our D core looks more legit
Shibbal18 a aimé ceci.
28 juin 2019 à 1 h 50
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Lol that is such a bad return for William Nylander. Lol, tage Thompson.
28 juin 2019 à 1 h 56
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MTL isn't moving Petry. Not before or at the start of the upcoming season anyways. Maybe next offseason once MTL has a better idea about Juulsen, Brook, Fleury. if any one of them proves they can step up, Petry will hit the market 100%, but not before. A top pairing offensive RD who is signed at $5.5mil aav for the next 2 years is too valuable.
28 juin 2019 à 2 h 13
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Lol that is such a bad return for William Nylander. Lol, tage Thompson.


Thompsons a 21 year old Center prospect he's got value
but the main value is BUF pick which is almost guaranteed a top 10 either in 2020 or 2021 .
they've selected 1st-8th the last 7 years straight with a top 3 pick 3/7 years .

so the returns a top 4 D , a 21 year old prospect and a top 10 pick either in 2020 or 2021 as BUF is that badly managed .
28 juin 2019 à 2 h 50
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Thompson is a 21 year old bottom six player who many are certain can't play C (fringe position) with very little value (limited, limited points with relatively good NHL mins), and who is the top 4 dman? You cannot mean Scandella? Not a top 4. Yeah the pick has value, but what does a pick down the road do for the leafs who are in their window now? Leafs strength is upfront, that is how they compete. You totally nerf them. This 3rd line does nothing. And in the end, you don't improve the d.
28 juin 2019 à 2 h 54
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And by you, I mean to say I am arguing your position in support of this. Not to say you published this.
28 juin 2019 à 2 h 55
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Quoting: TooMalevolent
Lol that is such a bad return for William Nylander. Lol, tage Thompson.


Thompson only has to work on his shot delivery. Hes 21, thats easy enough for him to develop at that age. Hes got every thing else skating speed hands height. Hes not laughable unless you dont know what you're looking at
28 juin 2019 à 3 h 0
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Quoting: TooMalevolent
Thompson is a 21 year old bottom six player who many are certain can't play C (fringe position) with very little value (limited, limited points with relatively good NHL mins), and who is the top 4 dman? You cannot mean Scandella? Not a top 4. Yeah the pick has value, but what does a pick down the road do for the leafs who are in their window now? Leafs strength is upfront, that is how they compete. You totally nerf them. This 3rd line does nothing. And in the end, you don't improve the d.


Yeah you have no idea what youre talking about. Theirs debate about having Thompson on Eichels line if he just improves his shot in this camp. He was a PPG player in the A at 21 years old at the end of the season, hes not a fringe NHLer
28 juin 2019 à 3 h 3
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Thompsons a 21 year old Center prospect he's got value
but the main value is BUF pick which is almost guaranteed a top 10 either in 2020 or 2021 .
they've selected 1st-8th the last 7 years straight with a top 3 pick 3/7 years .

so the returns a top 4 D , a 21 year old prospect and a top 10 pick either in 2020 or 2021 as BUF is that badly managed .


The sabres arent that bad. I question this year, but they wont be top 10 for the 2021 draft
28 juin 2019 à 3 h 9
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Lol you are trading Tage Thompson for William Nylander. In his absolute nightmare season, he still doubled Thompson on points. And yeah Scandella is not a top 4. You have the leafs paying their 3rd pair dman 4 million. Lol. And yes, they are worse upfront and on the back end. I have no idea what I am talking about. Right.
28 juin 2019 à 3 h 13
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Yeah you have no idea what youre talking about. Theirs debate about having Thompson on Eichels line if he just imporoves his shot in this camp. He was a PPG player in the A at 21 years old at the end of the season, hes not a fringe
NHLer


I did not say he was a fringe NHLer, I'm not high on him, don't know if he can be a top 6 player. I said I have read that positionally he is a fringe C. Many think he can't play down the middle
28 juin 2019 à 3 h 14
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Lol your trading Tage Thompson for William Nylander. In his absolute nightmare season, he still doubled Thompson on points. And yeah Scandella is not a top 4. You have the leafs paying their 3rd pair dman million. Lol. And yes, they are worse upfront and on the back end. I have no idea what I am talking about. Right.


When did i say anything about Scandella. I said your wrong about Thompson. I also never said Thompson was Nylander, thats why the Sabres add a first. Thompson is a potential 20-30 G a season forward. You said hes a fringe NHL. So therefore, you are wrong. Not all players come in at 18 fully developed. Doesnt mean they wont develop. You cant just look at the cap friendly stats page and pretend you know what youre talking about
28 juin 2019 à 3 h 16
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I did not say he was a fringe NHLer, I'm not high on him, don't know if he can be a top 6 player. I said I have read that positionally he is a fringe C. Many think he can't play down the middle

Hes been a winger, so I dont know why it matters if he can play center or not
28 juin 2019 à 3 h 17
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And also, there is probably talk about him playing on Eichel's line so that he can carry him up because Eichel is an elite player
28 juin 2019 à 3 h 21
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When did i say anything about Scandella. I said your wrong about Thompson. I also never said Thompson was Nylander, thats why the Sabres add a first. Thompson is a potential 20-30 G a season forward. You said hes a fringe NHL. So therefore, you are wrong. Not all players come in at 18 fully developed. Doesnt mean they wont develop. You cant just look at the cap friendly stats page and pretend you know what youre talking about


Again, I did not say anything about him being a fringe NHLer, I said he is fringe positionally.
28 juin 2019 à 3 h 22
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Stats is all we have going for us. You can't just make up how good a player will be and pretend like you know what you are talking about.
28 juin 2019 à 3 h 26
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Stats is all we have going for us. You can't just make up how good a player will be and pretend like you know what you are talking about.


Except i see him practice and listen to the scouts, team media, gm, and local media so I kinda can tell you what he is
28 juin 2019 à 3 h 27
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Again, I did not say anything about him being a fringe NHLer, I said he is fringe positionally.


Fringe positionally in a position he doesnt play, I dont have him playing, nor would he usually be expected to play
28 juin 2019 à 3 h 38
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Except i see him practice and listen to the scouts, team media, gm, and local media so I kinda can tell you what he is


Lol yes, the scouts. You convene with them at home games. Local media. Lol let me guess, Mike Harrington? That would perhaps explain your flawed reasoning. Lol the GM of the team. Yes, definitely listen and believe the GM who has a clear vested interest in upselling the main piece he got back in one of the worst trades in NHL history. Yeah, you keep listening, thanks for coming out bud.
28 juin 2019 à 10 h 53
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The sabres arent that bad. I question this year, but they wont be top 10 for the 2021 draft


you said that two 2nd overall picks and the #1 selection overall ago .
guess what , still a **** team who gives away talent with minimal return because they want out so bad . (see Oreilly )
28 juin 2019 à 11 h 38
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Lol yes, the scouts. You convene with them at home games. Local media. Lol let me guess, Mike Harrington? That would perhaps explain your flawed reasoning. Lol the GM of the team. Yes, definitely listen and believe the GM who has a clear vested interest in upselling the main piece he got back in one of the worst trades in NHL history. Yeah, you keep listening, thanks for coming out bud.


Ok buddy, keep up the first round knock outs
28 juin 2019 à 11 h 41
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you said that two 2nd overall picks and the #1 selection overall ago .
guess what , still a **** team who gives away talent with minimal return because they want out so bad . (see Oreilly )

See only Ryan O'Reilly.
28 juin 2019 à 13 h 50
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See only Ryan O'Reilly.


See Kane for Dany Oregan and a 1st
in the end all you have left is Montour who you used the 1st to acquire as Oregans

See Pysyk ,2nd and a 3rd for Kulikov and a 2nd

See Kane acquisition giving up Lemieux ,Armia,Stafford,Meyers,and Roslovic.

See Mcnabb and two 2nd rounders for Fasching and Deslauriers


you get in depth and pick then give them away instead of developing them .
before long Eichel will be like Vanek , approaching 30 and realizing he wasted a decade on
a team who's not built around a youth core since the 1990's .

you make the same mistakes every time
you get a big name drawing in crowds and that's all you care about .
TML did the same thing for Decade's until new Foundation from top position to bottom was
put in place to fix what they admitted were faults .

a few year later TML is the most dominating looking team i've seen in 30 +years from them
BUF needs to learn from TML overhaul and replace everyone from President on down
28 juin 2019 à 15 h 2
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Remember the last guy tage was traded for? How did that pan out bud? Also love how you didn't give mango and kap their reported contracts to make this wreck work. ????????
28 juin 2019 à 15 h 50
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Modifié 28 juin 2019 à 16 h 4
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Remember the last guy tage was traded for? How did that pan out bud? Also love how you didn't give mango and kap their reported contracts to make this wreck work. ????????


This was from 13 hours ago, bud, and I missed by 200 and 400K
 
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