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Créé par: Habsfutureisnow
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2019
Publié: 21 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I couldn't use 2019 draft picks so i used 2020 instead and things look great!

This year easily make playoffs. next year SIX first round picks + trade danault an byron for more good picks to stock the ahl and slot in suzuki and ratcliffe with puljujarvi and we are MINT
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 250 000 $
32 250 000 $
1800 000 $
31 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
56 000 000 $
32 500 000 $
33 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Ratcliffe, Isaac
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PHI)
2.
MTL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
3.
MTL
  1. Clarkson, David
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
VGK
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
4.
MTL
  1. Ericsson, Jonathan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (DET)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (DET)
DET
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
5.
OTT
  1. Alzner, Karl
  2. Deslauriers, Nicolas
  3. Hudon, Charles [Droits de RFA]
  4. Kulak, Brett
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
6.
MTL
  1. Kulikov, Dmitry
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
7.
MTL
  1. Frolík, Michael
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
Rachats de contrats
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2020
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2021
Logo de MTL
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Logo de EDM
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 000 000 $74 129 920 $0 $3 525 000 $7 870 080 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD
UFA
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
748 333 $748 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance175 000 $$175K)
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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21 juin 2019 à 10 h 21
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Really slanted trades for Montreal. So the Vegas moves down in the draft what 20 places for no reason. shakes head
21 juin 2019 à 10 h 27
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Really slanted trades for Montreal. So the Vegas moves down in the draft what 20 places for no reason. shakes head


they get out from underneath clarksons cap issues. look at LTIR FAQ as it relates to salary cap
21 juin 2019 à 10 h 28
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Weal is a RW Lehkonen LW, are you sure you're a habs fans > And what are those trade ? Every team reject
21 juin 2019 à 10 h 28
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they get out from underneath clarksons cap issues. look at LTIR FAQ as it relates to salary cap


You're making stuff up. Clarkson is NOT a cap issue. 99% of the the time any LTIR does not affect a teams cap.
21 juin 2019 à 10 h 30
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Weal is a RW Lehkonen LW, are you sure you're a habs fans > And what are those trade ? Every team reject


i've seen your trades and just didnt waste my time to respond.
21 juin 2019 à 10 h 39
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You're making stuff up. Clarkson is NOT a cap issue. 99% of the the time any LTIR does not affect a teams cap.


Actually he is palhal (to a certain extent). LTIR doesn't solve all your problems and in some cases like this one in Vegas, it would be beneficial to move him out. Obviously if Vegas trades Pacioretty and Eakin and Miller tomorrow, then there's no worries but I have a feeling, they're trying to not move those players right now as they would be dealing from a point of weakness and certainly have to give up those guys for peanuts rather than their true value. Clarkson is dead cap no mater what way you look at it.

Moving Clarkson's contract gives them a little more time and flexibility to sign Karlsson and then start working on who else they would need to move out to get back under the cap before the season starts.
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21 juin 2019 à 10 h 51
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i've seen your trades and just didnt waste my time to respond.


My trades makes sense for both team, you are way off. 1 year capdump doesnt bring you a 1st round pick. So your trade with Alzner, you got to send 3 1st round pick to OTT because he got 3 years remaining
21 juin 2019 à 14 h 4
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Actually he is palhal (to a certain extent). LTIR doesn't solve all your problems and in some cases like this one in Vegas, it would be beneficial to move him out. Obviously if Vegas trades Pacioretty and Eakin and Miller tomorrow, then there's no worries but I have a feeling, they're trying to not move those players right now as they would be dealing from a point of weakness and certainly have to give up those guys for peanuts rather than their true value. Clarkson is dead cap no mater what way you look at it.

Moving Clarkson's contract gives them a little more time and flexibility to sign Karlsson and then start working on who else they would need to move out to get back under the cap before the season starts.


Nope. It doesn't affect their flexbility at all. Gee the Leafs have Lupul, Horton and Rodibas almost 15m in LTIR money during the summer. Did not affect there ability to sign to the cap with "live" players during the summer.
Have a player on LTIR...especially permanent LTIR, may affect when the team can pay their performance bonus.
Even if was a concern, Ottawa or others has of cap and certainly wouldn't demand a such a big premium
21 juin 2019 à 14 h 22
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Nope. It doesn't affect their flexbility at all. Gee the Leafs have Lupul, Horton and Rodibas almost 15m in LTIR money during the summer. Did not affect there ability to sign to the cap with "live" players during the summer.
Have a player on LTIR...especially permanent LTIR, may affect when the team can pay their performance bonus.
Even if was a concern, Ottawa or others has of cap and certainly wouldn't demand a such a big premium


Cap is ~82M
10% cushion makes it ~90M
Vegas right now has ~83M in cap
Vegas still needs to sign Karlsson @ 7M, Gusev @ 3M, Engelend @ 1M, Subban @ 1M

Their cap will be well over 90M at that point.

This stuff is pretty complicated so I won't pretend to be an expert but during the season, Vegas is allowed to exceed the salary cap by 5.25M max due to LTIR. During the offseason though, they can only exceed the salary cap by the difference between the LTIR saving and the bonus cushion of 10%, not the 10% and then the 5.25M from the LTIR. Meaning they can't sign everybody until they move out salary. That's why I said, if they trade a guy like Eakin right now for a 7th rounder, they could be potentially fine to sign everyone (I don't know for a fact I would have to recalculate) and then start working on the rest of the players they'd have to ship out to fit under the cap when the 10$ bonus cushion is removed.

@CapFriendly - Can one of you guys refute/validate this? This seems to be a common mistake that people make around here but then we hear contradictory reports that wouldn't make sense given what we think we know and being that the salary cap is extremely complicated, I'd like to squash this one so I can pass on the right information going forward.

tldr - why would Vegas need to trade Clarksons contract if they can just use LTIR to give themselves the additional exceeding of the cap they would need to sign all their pending RFA's and UFA's?
21 juin 2019 à 14 h 28
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Cap is ~82M
10% cushion makes it ~90M
Vegas right now has ~83M in cap
Vegas still needs to sign Karlsson @ 7M, Gusev @ 3M, Engelend @ 1M, Subban @ 1M

The cap cushion is for "live" players. For instance it gives teams like the Leafs, Lighting to sign their RFAs and be over the cap and then have a few months to make deals to be cap compliant.
Why folks get so enamoured with the 10% rule, I don't know.

Let's say in August Toews and Kane injured themselves training and are going out for the season. Are you saying the Hawks are forced to keep those two players on the 90m cap roster till October 1?
Teams are not cap punished for having LTIR players.
21 juin 2019 à 14 h 42
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Where does it say its for "live players"? And if that's the case, Clarksons LTIR only lets Vegas exceed the 82M cap by his 5.25M cap. Not the 82M plus the 10% cushion and then the 5.25M LTIR on top of that. If there was no 10% cushion, Vegas could only spend another (Cap ceiling + LTIR = 87M. They are at 83 now so that leaves them 4M) The add the + 10% cushion gives them another 3M because that brings it up to 90M total. 90 - 83 equals 7M to sign karlsson and the rest of the gang.
21 juin 2019 à 14 h 55
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Where does it say its for "live players"? And if that's the case, Clarksons LTIR only lets Vegas exceed the 82M cap by his 5.25M cap. Not the 82M plus the 10% cushion and then the 5.25M LTIR on top of that. If there was no 10% cushion, Vegas could only spend another (Cap ceiling + LTIR = 87M. They are at 83 now so that leaves them 4M) The add the + 10% cushion gives them another 3M because that brings it up to 90M total. 90 - 83 equals 7M to sign karlsson and the rest of the gang.


If you think LTIR is included in the 83m and 10%...so be it.
 
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