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Vegas trade

Créé par: yanp007
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 18 juin 2019
Publié: 18 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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MTL
  1. Clarkson, David
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (VGK)
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2483 000 000 $75 618 809 $0 $3 525 000 $7 381 191 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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UFA - 4
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD
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UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
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UFA - 7
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 7
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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748 333 $748 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance175 000 $$175K)
DD
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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18 juin 2019 à 15 h 55
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id say 2 2nds man. he only has 1 year left on his deal. maybe even 1 2nd tbh. a 1st is too much
18 juin 2019 à 15 h 55
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considering he can go on LTIR, they won't need to trade a large asset.
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18 juin 2019 à 16 h 0
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considering he can go on LTIR, they won't need to trade a large asset.


So what reason would Vegas have for trading him then? We give everyone crap for doing these LTIR trades where a guy costs nothing against the cap essentially, but now it appears Vegas is trying to move him....I don't get it.
18 juin 2019 à 16 h 5
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So what reason would Vegas have for trading him then? We give everyone crap for doing these LTIR trades where a guy costs nothing against the cap essentially, but now it appears Vegas is trying to move him....I don't get it.


The cap of Clarkson count before October 1st
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18 juin 2019 à 16 h 11
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Clarkson doesn't affect the cap at all. What nonsense about summer LTIRs too. Leafs for one season had I believe 3 players at LTIR all year round... Horton, Lupul and Robidas. They could still spend to the cap with "active" players.
The only disadvatage of having a player on LTIR is that it might affectWHEN a team. can pay its bonuses. That's it.
99% of LTIR trades posted on CapFriendly are absolutely meaningless.
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18 juin 2019 à 16 h 11
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The cap of Clarkson count before October 1st


From the CBA:

Can LTIR be used in the off-season?
Yes, LTIR can be used in the off-season while the 10% off-season cushion is active. LTIR in the off-season is calculated using the basic equation outlined above, which permits a team to exceed the off-season salary cap. To use off-season LTIR the team must provide doctors proof that the player in question will continue to be injured at the beginning of the regular season for 10 NHL games and 24 calendar days.

At the start of the season the teams LTIR relief & ACSL is recalculated when the 10% cushion is removed.
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18 juin 2019 à 17 h 19
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From the CBA:

Can LTIR be used in the off-season?
Yes, LTIR can be used in the off-season while the 10% off-season cushion is active. LTIR in the off-season is calculated using the basic equation outlined above, which permits a team to exceed the off-season salary cap. To use off-season LTIR the team must provide doctors proof that the player in question will continue to be injured at the beginning of the regular season for 10 NHL games and 24 calendar days.

At the start of the season the teams LTIR relief & ACSL is recalculated when the 10% cushion is removed.


Vegas is right now over the cap....
18 juin 2019 à 20 h 16
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Quoting: yanp007
Vegas is right now over the cap....


Yes, but they are within the 10% cap cushion. They will exceed the cushion when they sign their RFA and UFA and not trade away any players under contract.
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19 juin 2019 à 11 h 27
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Quoting: F50marco
From the CBA:

Can LTIR be used in the off-season?
Yes, LTIR can be used in the off-season while the 10% off-season cushion is active. LTIR in the off-season is calculated using the basic equation outlined above, which permits a team to exceed the off-season salary cap. To use off-season LTIR the team must provide doctors proof that the player in question will continue to be injured at the beginning of the regular season for 10 NHL games and 24 calendar days.

At the start of the season the teams LTIR relief & ACSL is recalculated when the 10% cushion is removed.


The cap should be at 82M next season, +10% = 91M. Vegas 19 players under contract at 83.1M. Karlsson should sign at 6-7M, Gusev at 2-3M and two other players at 1M. At best is 83.1+6+2+1+1 = 93M. They have to move something, Clarkson is easiest move to do at 5.250M. So 93M-5.250M = 87M. It's over 5M to the cap... again...
19 juin 2019 à 11 h 48
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The cap should be at 82M next season, +10% = 91M. Vegas 19 players under contract at 83.1M. Karlsson should sign at 6-7M, Gusev at 2-3M and two other players at 1M. At best is 83.1+6+2+1+1 = 93M. They have to move something, Clarkson is easiest move to do at 5.250M. So 93M-5.250M = 87M. It's over 5M to the cap... again...


Read this again:

Can LTIR be used in the off-season?
Yes, LTIR can be used in the off-season while the 10% off-season cushion is active.


82M cap + 10% = approx 90M + LTIR overage for Clarkson 5.25M = approx 95M.

Regardless, they have to make trades no matter what. I just feel it makes more sense to trade Eakin, Miller and Haula over trading Clarksons contract which they'll have to lose an asset to move.
 
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