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What is Kadris value

Créé par: Juicy_Tanner
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 3 juin 2019
Publié: 3 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This trade was based off of the Brassard to PIT trade

-roster player
-decent prospect
-1st rd pick
-3rd rd pick
Transactions
TOR
  1. Honka, Julius [Droits de RFA]
  2. Robertson, Jason
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (DAL)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (DAL)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2019
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1883 000 000 $64 954 699 $0 $132 500 $18 045 301 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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700 000 $700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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11 634 000 $11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 5
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
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675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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675 000 $675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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3 juin 2019 à 20 h 52
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Its amazing how undervalued Kadri is on this site (even being in the same conversation as Brassard lol)
But ofc because I have a Kadri pick I must have no clue...

He is a 2C on nearly any other team, he would get what a decent 2C on a steal of a contract would return.
3 juin 2019 à 20 h 54
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Quoting: Random2152
Its amazing how undervalued Kadri is on this site (even being in the same conversation as Brassard lol)
But ofc because I have a Kadri pick I must have no clue...


He was the closest comparable that I could find
3 juin 2019 à 21 h 16
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Can I get some of what you Leafs fan smoke?.. Maybe a 2nd round pick .. he would be 4th line on Boston and Tampa .. maybe 2nd line on Blues
3 juin 2019 à 21 h 20
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If I was Chevy I'd offer something like the Tatar trade, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Kadri would be a great 2C for the Jets.
3 juin 2019 à 21 h 22
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I think he's the opposite of undervalued on this site. He's actually overvalued in nearly every Toronto ACGM I see. And that doesn't change on this one.

I'm a Kings fan, so I'll use a trade for a LEGIT 2C as a comparable. Granted, it was 7 years ago, but I think my point will be able to be seen.

In 2012, the Kings traded for Jeff Carter for a 1st pick in 2012 OR 2013 and Jack Johnson (who, at the time, was an up-and-coming A- defensive prospect who was NHL-ready). He's got a contract at 5.27mil per year, so about 3/4s of a mill more than Kadri now, in an era where the cap wasn't as high. So by that perspective, Kadri's contract is nice, so that's a point in Toronto's favor.

Let's look at the stats. Carter was 27 (1 year younger than Kadri is now) and already had 3 30+ goal years, one in which he scored 36 and one in which he scored 46. He'd broken 60 points in the 3 previous years straight with an 84 point year when scored the 46. Kadri on the other hand has broken 60 points once. Carter massively gets the edge here, and it's not even close. Carter was DEFINITELY a 2C on any team in the NHL. Kadri might be a 2C on some teams, but hopefully not the top 10, if they want to be contenders.

Now let's look at intangibles. Carter grew into an assistant captain, and hasn't been suspended or fined that I can see. Kadri on the other hand, is well-known for his antics. 5 suspensions, 3 fines. 2 suspensions in absolutely critical moments which people can say cost the team at least 1 playoff series. Carter again gets a HUGE advantage here.

So, my guess the value will be maybe a B+/A- prospect with a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Not to mention everyone and their mother's are aware of Toronto's cap situation, so they aren't going to get any steals. They certainly aren't getting a 1st round pick for him, in the era where 1st rounders are more valuable than just about anything.
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3 juin 2019 à 23 h 24
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Quoting: Random2152
Its amazing how undervalued Kadri is on this site (even being in the same conversation as Brassard lol)
But ofc because I have a Kadri pick I must have no clue...

He is a 2C on nearly any other team, he would get what a decent 2C on a steal of a contract would return.


Not a leafs guy but 100% agree. Regardless of some "antics", he's both talented and tough and that lineup needs more toughness. I think losing him does way more harm than good.
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