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Créé par: jfalstaff
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 2 juin 2019
Publié: 2 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
39 160 000 $
22 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 000 000 $
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TOR
  1. Pateryn, Greg
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
[plus some okay prospect?]
4.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 000 000 $82 804 699 $0 $215 000 $195 301 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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9 160 000 $9 160 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 634 000 $11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 800 000 $6 800 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
767 500 $767 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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675 000 $675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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2 juin 2019 à 17 h 14
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Multiple sources have said even on three year deal marner want at least 10. He wants to a deal similar or more then Mathews
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 14
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Quoting: BigDog91
Multiple sources have said even on three year deal marner want at least 10. He wants to a deal similar or more then Mathews


Yeah, but he won't get that.
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 17
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Yeah, but he won't get that.


Yes he will. And Johnsson will get more too
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 17
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Quoting: jfalstaff
Yeah, but he won't get that.


Aww yeah he will. You can cross your fingers and pray all you want but marner will be getting 11 million. Jeff Skinner is getting 8 years @ 9mil. Why would not get 11.
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 18
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Quoting: jfalstaff
Yeah, but he won't get that.


Wanna bet? He either gets it, Or sits out for the year. Right now i doubt he pretty much cares if he plays or not.
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 22
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I'm sure Kapanen and Johnsson, Trouba,....and most RFAs want 10m? Does it really matter?
Leafs would rather Have Marleau for one year than Phaneuf for two. Kessel, no thanks. Pateryn isn't good but he a RHD which propels to him to a Norris candicate when traded to the Leafs.
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 23
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The two laziest players on one line? Thats a lot of defence not played on line 3
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 25
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For Kings to be interested in taking Marleau, they need a combination of picks/prospects/young fast players coming back and a bad contracts going the other way. A one for one swap of bad contracts in no where close enough to get Marleau moved.
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 25
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Wanna bet? He either gets it, Or sits out for the year. Right now i doubt he pretty much cares if he plays or not.


He won't sit probably, because someone would probably come with an offer sheet
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2 juin 2019 à 17 h 30
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The two laziest players on one line? Thats a lot of defence not played on line 3


It's a sheltered scoring line, and there to drive fans crazy. Also, Willy's a good play driver and Phil's got a great shot.


Quoting: Zwui21
He won't sit probably, because someone would probably come with an offer sheet


Then the Leafs will take the picks and sign Skinner. Oh well.


Quoting: gmurrayt
For Kings to be interested in taking Marleau, they need a combination of picks/prospects/young fast players coming back and a bad contracts going the other way. A one for one swap of bad contracts in no where close enough to get Marleau moved.


No. At most one of those sweeteners, and even then -- similarly problematic players on similarly problematic contracts get trade one-for-one all the time.


Quoting: BigDog91
Multiple sources have said even on three year deal marner want at least 10. He wants to a deal similar or more then Mathews


It is definitely true that Marner's agent has talked to multiple sources. But that doesn't change what's a sane amount to pay him or the Leafs' leverage one whit.
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 32
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Lol the drug I tells ya the drugs of the leaf fans who think Marner will get 11 mil.
No GM I'm the league is giving him that let alone Dubas
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 33
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Wanna bet? He either gets it, Or sits out for the year. Right now i doubt he pretty much cares if he plays or not.


I will flat out bet you right now. But first I'll give you a minute to look over the stats and facts because exactly 100% of them say Marner is not worth 11 mil. It's crazy business when a couple media guys can spew some BS out of their ass and an entire fan base soaks it up
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 34
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Quoting: Jangle29
Lol the drug I tells ya the drugs of the leaf fans who think Marner will get 11 mil.
No GM I'm the league is giving him that let alone Dubas


This was what we were all saying before Matthews re-signed, but he still got 11.634 on a five years deal
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 39
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Quoting: Zwui21
This was what we were all saying before Matthews re-signed, but he still got 11.634 on a five years deal


He's also twice the player Marner is. Plays center. Scores twice as many goals. Drives a line. Is miles better defensively. All doing this with 3rd line players
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 43
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Quoting: Zwui21
This was what we were all saying before Matthews re-signed, but he still got 11.634 on a five years deal


Who was saying Matthews wouldn't be making more than anyone but McDavid? He's the best goal-scoring center of his generation, and to find a comparable at that position you'd probably have to go back to... Sakic? Of course his contract was going to look something like that.

Marner, meanwhile, is great. Really great. Like a Kane or Kucherov or Gaudreau or Draisaitl. Great winger. But not exactly a generational talent at anything in particular.
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 44
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Quoting: jfalstaff
It's a sheltered scoring line, and there to drive fans crazy. Also, Willy's a good play driver and Phil's got a great shot.




Then the Leafs will take the picks and sign Skinner. Oh well.




No. At most one of those sweeteners, and even then -- similarly problematic players on similarly problematic contracts get trade one-for-one all the time.




It is definitely true that Marner's agent has talked to multiple sources. But that doesn't change what's a sane amount to pay him or the Leafs' leverage one whit.


Problematic contracts are traded all the time when it is mutually beneficial for both teams. In this case, there is zero incentive for LA to make this trade. The only value Marleau brings to the Kings is the additional assets that must be included in order to move him. And taking back Phaneuf alone is not worth anything.
2 juin 2019 à 17 h 48
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Quoting: jfalstaff
Who was saying Matthews wouldn't be making more than anyone but McDavid? He's the best goal-scoring center of his generation, and to find a comparable at that position you'd probably have to go back to... Sakic? Of course his contract was going to look something like that.

Marner, meanwhile, is great. Really great. Like a Kane or Kucherov or Gaudreau or Draisaitl. Great winger. But not exactly a generational talent at anything in particular.


The pessimists were thinking about a Tavares like contract, but for 8 years.


Matthews is a generational talent? Geez, that word is used way too frequently lately.
2 juin 2019 à 19 h 1
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Quoting: Zwui21

Matthews is a generational talent? Geez, that word is used way too frequently lately.


His 5v5 scoring rate is insane.

Matthews, over the last three seasons, is at 1.52 G/60.

Going back to 2007-8, only Crosby exceeds that.

They eye-test folks cite Sakic and Lindros.

Yeah, generational goal scorer.
 
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