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17 mai 2019 à 12 h 16
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Would you take Kapanen and send a 2nd back instead of Johnsson?
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17 mai 2019 à 12 h 20
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Doesn't help the Leafs cap at all. Nish makes 1.25m more than Zaitsev and the Leafs lose Johnsson too?
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Sabres definitely say no, i wouldnt give up Asplund 1 for 1 for Bura. Not even factoring in that they have to give Bura 3 mill
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17 mai 2019 à 12 h 22
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Would you take Kapanen and send a 2nd back instead of Johnsson?


seems fair to me... imo I like AJ better but both are solid players
17 mai 2019 à 12 h 29
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Sabres definitely say no, i wouldnt give up Asplund 1 for 1 for Bura. Not even factoring in that they have to give Bura 3 mill


haha oh? you mean asplund who had 41 points in 75 Ahl games at the age of 21? who hasnt played in the in the nhl yet? unless im missing something this is a funny comment.....bura would easily slot into your top 6... ugh you guys are the worst
17 mai 2019 à 12 h 30
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Doesn't help the Leafs cap at all. Nish makes 1.25m more than Zaitsev and the Leafs lose Johnsson too?


nisk is a top 4 defenseman who can play pp pk and 5v5. major upgrade to zait....hes also sign for a reasonable price for a dman of his caliber....his cap hit isnt ideal but he makes you guys a lot better
17 mai 2019 à 12 h 38
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Sabres definitely say no, i wouldnt give up Asplund 1 for 1 for Bura. Not even factoring in that they have to give Bura 3 mill


This is purely emotional response with little to no thought behind it. At asplund current age burakovsky had a 40 point nhl season. The fact he can’t crack a Buffalo roster says enough. You probably think nylander is elite also.? Comments like this make me hate this site. Dre >aspuld that’s facts
17 mai 2019 à 12 h 39
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Doesn't help the Leafs cap at all. Nish makes 1.25m more than Zaitsev and the Leafs lose Johnsson too?


I agree. I don’t know nisk actual value. He showed so decline this season. Was it a bad year or harsh reality ?
17 mai 2019 à 12 h 44
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haha oh? you mean asplund who had 41 points in 75 Ahl games at the age of 21? who hasnt played in the in the nhl yet? unless im missing something this is a funny comment.....bura would easily slot into your top 6... ugh you guys are the worst


I forgot players arent allowed to develop on this website. I watched Asplund grow his game this year and know what the Sabres have in him. I also watched Bura struggle to find a spot yet again, and be a complete head case. I doubt he could crack the Sabres top 6 (Olofsson Ruotsalainen Sheary and Skinner if they sign him) and even if he did he wouldnt make it better. You dont know the Sabres as well as you think you do so dump your "charity" on some other victim. Bura is not worth 3 mill and hes definitely not worth a promising middle 6 forward
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17 mai 2019 à 12 h 45
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nisk is a top 4 defenseman who can play pp pk and 5v5. major upgrade to zait....hes also sign for a reasonable price for a dman of his caliber....his cap hit isnt ideal but he makes you guys a lot better


I know everyone wants to dump on Zaitsev and Leafs defence. Leafs allowed one more goal than Washington this season. (if I'm reading the stats correctly) And Washington did all that with the high priced Carlsson Nish, and Holtlby.
Zaitsev can kill the PK, and being Gardiner's partner had to play defence 5 on 5. His offensive totals dived because he never played the PP...Marner played right point. Is the gap that much difference to take on more cap and loose Johnsson? I don't think so.
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This is purely emotional response with little to no thought behind it. At asplund current age burakovsky had a 40 point nhl season. The fact he can’t crack a Buffalo roster says enough. You probably think nylander is elite also.? Comments like this make me hate this site. Dre >aspuld that’s facts


Asplund cant crack the roster? He had 1 year in North America and had a really good season. Bura had 40 points because of his team and has faltered and gotten further away from that 40 point season, not gotten better. Sabres fans know how their prospects look, I dont need a caps fan to come in and evaluate an AHLer they never seen play before for me.
17 mai 2019 à 12 h 55
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I know everyone wants to dump on Zaitsev and Leafs defence. Leafs allowed one more goal than Washington this season. (if I'm reading the stats correctly) And Washington did all that with the high priced Carlsson Nish, and Holtlby.
Zaitsev can kill the PK, and being Gardiner's partner had to play defence 5 on 5. His offensive totals dived because he never played the PP...Marner played right point. Is the gap that much difference to take on more cap and loose Johnsson? I don't think so.


what would be a more fair value? or the trade doesnt make sense?
17 mai 2019 à 13 h 6
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what would be a more fair value? or the trade doesnt make sense?


I'm one I(maybe of few) that think Zaitsev has to stay a Leaf, since the Leafs don't really have any one to replace him. His actual 4.5m cap hit is OK, but his 5 year term scares off potential buyers.
So IMO, the Leafs really can't trade Zaitsev that is good for the Leafs on ice next and really isn't good for the trading partner too.

Leafs have to lose about 6.7m in cap this summer after all their RFAs are signed. Now finding a trade partner that can take on cap is difficult. And other teams like Tampa, Jets...and somewhat Flames, Vegas and Sharks are in the same position....dumping NHLers and their cap to teams with cap space.
I would prefer to do a trade more along the lines Nylander for Jensen...though Caps can't that cap either. Or Nylander for 2.3m TVR and a prospect. Leafs lose possibly on ice value, but gotta reduce the cap somehow and with those other teams I mentioned....it's a crowded market for dumping cap, even for competent players.
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17 mai 2019 à 13 h 13
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Asplund cant crack the roster? He had 1 year in North America and had a really good season. Bura had 40 points because of his team and has faltered and gotten further away from that 40 point season, not gotten better. Sabres fans know how their prospects look, I dont need a caps fan to come in and evaluate an AHLer they never seen play before for me.


Because of his teammates? He played with Lars Eller. And he had two major hand injuries. He had a strong 2nd half of this season. Haha evaluate him? At the age of 21 you should be able to score more in the minors or be in the nhl. Especially when the sabres aren’t good. Honestly if he was “bura level good” he would be playing in nhl. lol your boy is a Riley barber 2.0. Don’t glorify your prospects it’s not a good look
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I'm one I(maybe of few) that think Zaitsev has to stay a Leaf, since the Leafs don't really have any one to replace him. His actual 4.5m cap hit is OK, but his 5 year term scares off potential buyers.
So IMO, the Leafs really can't trade Zaitsev that is good for the Leafs on ice next and really isn't good for the trading partner too.

Leafs have to lose about 6.7m in cap this summer after all their RFAs are signed. Now finding a trade partner that can take on cap is difficult. And other teams like Tampa, Jets...and somewhat Flames, Vegas and Sharks are in the same position....dumping NHLers and their cap to teams with cap space.
I would prefer to do a trade more along the lines Nylander for Jensen...though Caps can't that cap either. Or Nylander for 2.3m TVR and a prospect. Leafs lose possibly on ice value, but gotta reduce the cap somehow and with those other teams I mentioned....it's a crowded market for dumping cap, even for competent players.


nylander for jensen? that would be a sweet trade imo. other leaf fans would Lose their mind at the idea of that trade... probably a lot of name calling involved haha
17 mai 2019 à 13 h 25
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This is purely emotional response with little to no thought behind it. At asplund current age burakovsky had a 40 point nhl season. The fact he can’t crack a Buffalo roster says enough. You probably think nylander is elite also.? Comments like this make me hate this site. Dre >aspuld that’s facts


I don't think it is. Sabres take on cap and dump two players the organization wants to see grow. Bura has in 2/5 seasons has gone over 25 points and points are a poor stat to use when judging a players worth. That doesn't factor in how hard they work in their own end. I haven't watched Bura, but while he may be smaller, Asplund is a great two way center. Backchecks hard and is willing to sacrifice his body to maintain possession. I'm feeling confident Asplund can do the same production as bura at a third of the price. Could I be wrong? Of course. But why help a conference opponent with cap trouble for practically nothing. While you believe he'd be in our top 6, he'd most likely be where sheary is. And is there a guarantee he can match those point totals in Buffalo? And do we want to add another player who can't produce for 3M.

Thompson is TBD obviously with how poor he was in the NHL vs AHL. But there's no guarentee priskie would sign with Buffalo and the other guy hasn't produced over seas. The entire premise of this trade is banking on Bura putting up 30 points a season. Something he hasn't done on a cup winner contender.

Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them wrong
17 mai 2019 à 13 h 27
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Because of his teammates? He played with Lars Eller. And he had two major hand injuries. He had a strong 2nd half of this season. Haha evaluate him? At the age of 21 you should be able to score more in the minors or be in the nhl. Especially when the sabres aren’t good. Honestly if he was “bura level good” he would be playing in nhl. lol your boy is a Riley barber 2.0. Don’t glorify your prospects it’s not a good look


why waste your time? who cares the sabres aren't good and when that happens fans tend to cling to the future and prospects.... even if they aren't very good. travis boyd had better Ahl numbers and was a 4th liner for the caps. bura didn't play in the Ahl bc he was actually good. we'll see what happens with bura next season. maybe hell surprise everyone like Anderson did with cbj
17 mai 2019 à 13 h 35
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I don't think it is. Sabres take on cap and dump two players the organization wants to see grow. Bura has in 2/5 seasons has gone over 25 points and points are a poor stat to use when judging a players worth. That doesn't factor in how hard they work in their own end. I haven't watched Bura, but while he may be smaller, Asplund is a great two way center. Backchecks hard and is willing to sacrifice his body to maintain possession. I'm feeling confident Asplund can do the same production as bura at a third of the price. Could I be wrong? Of course. But why help a conference opponent with cap trouble for practically nothing. While you believe he'd be in our top 6, he'd most likely be where sheary is. And is there a guarantee he can match those point totals in Buffalo? And do we want to add another player who can't produce for 3M.

Thompson is TBD obviously with how poor he was in the NHL vs AHL. But there's no guarentee priskie would sign with Buffalo and the other guy hasn't produced over seas. The entire premise of this trade is banking on Bura putting up 30 points a season. Something he hasn't done on a cup winner contender.

Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them wrong


Bura is coming off 2 major hand injuries. But agree to disagree. Bura shows flashes of being elite but he also shows flashes of being average. The cAps are way too deep of a team to be able to give him a fair opportunity in the top 6. Next season due to ufa the caps will be forced to play him and he should be completely healthy so I guess we’ll see what happens. Also bura can hit and score either way watch him play he’s actually talented very talented. I’ll look for asplund in the nhl next year....

Priskie will sign if he can make the nhl fast. Buffalo makes sense IMO
17 mai 2019 à 13 h 38
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Priskie will sign if he can make the nhl fast. Buffalo makes sense IMO


To be fair thats what people said about Vesey lol
17 mai 2019 à 13 h 42
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To be fair thats what people said about Vesey lol


Haha that was a dick move. Would you guys even want him if he was available?
17 mai 2019 à 13 h 48
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Haha that was a dick move. Would you guys even want him if he was available?


Vesey? or Priskie?

Vesey not really, Priskie I would but that's me
17 mai 2019 à 13 h 50
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Vesey?


Yeah
17 mai 2019 à 13 h 58
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Yeah


I'm actually not that big on him. A year back I would have, but as I dig into more into the stats side of hockey I noticed how many opportunities he gives up. Though to be fair NYR wasn't all that great this season
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Because of his teammates? He played with Lars Eller. And he had two major hand injuries. He had a strong 2nd half of this season. Haha evaluate him? At the age of 21 you should be able to score more in the minors or be in the nhl. Especially when the sabres aren’t good. Honestly if he was “bura level good” he would be playing in nhl. lol your boy is a Riley barber 2.0. Don’t glorify your prospects it’s not a good look


Lars Eller is a really good center that I would love to have on my team. Also yeah no productive NHLer goes to the AHL first, thats never happened...
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Lars Eller is a really good center that I would love to have on my team. Also yeah no productive NHLer goes to the AHL first, thats never happened...


At the age of 21? Yeah that does happen (rarely works out) but I wouldn’t get a chubby over him and think he’s going to pan out ha. He has average ahl stats and he’s going to be 22 next season and I doubt Buffalo has him playing in the nhl next season. Bura expedites the process of waiting for him to develop or not develop.
 
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