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Wat a honest leaf team looks like from a non leaf fan

Créé par: BigDog91
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 16 mai 2019
Publié: 17 mai 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This lineup show how hard it will be to get under the cap. The leafs will need to make alot of trades to make this work and alot of the trades can be switched with different teams with similar players. So didnt get hung up on certain player.

Key facts.
1 marleau can not be traded with NTC and contract so stop trading him for players on LTIR. Those contract are insured and owners only pay small portion.
2 zaitsev contract will make him very hard to trade and leafs have no RHD
3 LEAF PLAYERS DONT MAGICALLY HAVE MORE VALUE THEN OTHER TEAMS BECAUSE THEY PLAY FOR THE LEAFS.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
810 750 000 $
34 000 000 $
34 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
I believe leafs will be lucky to get a first. For him right now. Unfortunately because off salary they will be forced to trade him.
2.
TOR
  1. Miller, Colin
Détails additionnels:
A similar trade to montour and buffalo.
VGK
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (CAR)
3.
TOR
  1. Thompson, Tage
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
This trade and Vancouver trade are the same plan. Get player on rookie deal who can play next year and late round pick to even it out. With his value being 2nd round pick because of offer sheet. THis is fair value. both trade can be to any team with player similar. Just thought Thompson and Virtanen would bring some size to lineup.
4.
TOR
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
His value is 4th round pick. Maybe 3rd if a team becomes desperate but not likely.
5.
TOR
  1. Mete, Victor
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (CBJ)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Montreal needs LHD really bad.
MTL
  1. Muzzin, Jake
Détails additionnels:
Muzzin just didnt work out. With him being 31 next year and FA he wont have the value when leaves trade for him. Also Zaitsev is almost untradable.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2019
Logo de TOR
Logo de CBJ
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de STL
Logo de SJS
Logo de EDM
Logo de MTL
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de DAL
2020
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de EDM
Logo de SJS
2021
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $74 863 166 $0 $507 500 $7 636 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 750 000 $10 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 634 000 $11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
675 000 $675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
748 333 $748 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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17 mai 2019 à 8 h 46
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You somehow managed to get rid of Kapanen, Johnsson, Nylander and Brown and make our Dcore worse than before..
17 mai 2019 à 8 h 51
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grimace Uh....oh.....I get it....troll job. squinty smile
17 mai 2019 à 8 h 51
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You somehow managed to get rid of Kapanen, Johnsson, Nylander and Brown and make our Dcore worse than before..


Shows leaf fans how screwed you guys are. when marner get close to or over 11 million you guys will need to make alot of changes.
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17 mai 2019 à 8 h 54
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Quoting: SammyT_51
You somehow managed to get rid of Kapanen, Johnsson, Nylander and Brown and make our Dcore worse than before..


I had Horton Buried and not on LTIR. So you were able to get Johnsson or Kappanen back.
17 mai 2019 à 8 h 54
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Shows leaf fans how screwed you guys are. when marner get close to or over 11 million you guys will need to make alot of changes.


None of those guys would need to be moved tbh. Well.. Kadri, Zaitsev, Marleau all can be traded with limited cap space going back. Maybe Marleau would not be traded but we can manage.. Marner is not getting 11 btw. He is not the best winger in the league and he had "sudden" jump of almost 30% in terms of production with JT which was case with each of his winger since like 2013.. he is a great player but he is not worth 11. 9.5-10 on longterm deal at best.
17 mai 2019 à 8 h 57
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Quoting: SammyT_51
None of those guys would need to be moved tbh. Well.. Kadri, Zaitsev, Marleau all can be traded with limited cap space going back. Maybe Marleau would not be traded but we can manage.. Marner is not getting 11 btw. He is not the best winger in the league and he had "sudden" jump of almost 30% in terms of production with JT which was case with each of his winger since like 2013.. he is a great player but he is not worth 11. 9.5-10 on longterm deal at best.


Kadri is on good contract so why trade him. Zatisev contract makes him impossible to trade. and Marner will get over 10 million especially in TOR.
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17 mai 2019 à 8 h 58
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Kadri is on good contract so why trade him. Zatisev contract makes him impossible to trade. and Marner will get over 10 million especially in TOR.


Kadri is getting older. Cash on him. With Lindells contract Zaitsev would be a golden contract to get lol. Marner would likely get around 10.. and it would be overpayment.
17 mai 2019 à 9 h 14
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Fair assessment. For Connor Brown, model it after the Sheary trade - conditional 4th that could be a 3rd
17 mai 2019 à 9 h 17
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Quoting: BigDog91
Shows leaf fans how screwed you guys are. when marner get close to or over 11 million you guys will need to make alot of changes.


Oh really? So screwed.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1153662
17 mai 2019 à 9 h 19
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Team bonuses also a little liberal with the cap ceiling.
17 mai 2019 à 9 h 59
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Team bonuses also a little liberal with the cap ceiling.


I am pretty certain bonuses aren't an issue. There are no high end rookies with rookie bonuses in the lineup. That was an issue when Matthews, Marner and Nylander were on their rookie deals, which they are no longer on. And the cap projections have been anywhere from 83-84 million. However you slice it, its not nearly as dire as you guys want it to be. Its all just wild speculation fueled by fans and the media.

The defence is definitely going to be inexperienced and Brown and one of Kapanen and Johnsson, possibly both will likely be moved, but that isn't a huge loss. The Leafs are good at developing young players and for every depth guy that succeeds they have a couple of Marlies who are ready to jump in and earn time. So when a young guy prices his self out of town, he gets replaced with a Marlie who is cheaper and probably about the same quality of player. The difference between Kapanen and Nylander is way bigger than the difference between Kapanen and Moore.

Having too many good young players is a very good problem to have. Even the sentiment that TO is going to have pay a huge price to get under the cap is silly. Why? Because they have high value pieces they can move for fair returns that many teams are going to be interested in obtaining. Moving Marleau to make this season easier at a huge cost, doesn't make sense nor do I think he's even going to want to waive his NMC. Moving Zaitsev wouldn't cost the Leafs anything but it wouldn't bring back a return either, he'd be moved for a 5th or 6th rounder because contrary to what fans on here like to say, he's a serviceable 2nd pair defensive defenceman. That has value but since the Leafs are against the cap they won't get fair value for him, which is why they will get basically nothing. Will all that said, moving him creates another hole that needs to be filled and would result in moving other guys out to fill that hole and likely weaken the team further.

What a reasonable and forward thinking Leaf (I raise my hand) thinks, is that the Leafs should start the season with young guys on the blueline and see how things go. Its is not impossible for Rosen, Liljegren, Sandin or Holl to surprise. Really the Leafs need to replace Hainsey's minutes and he sucks so that isn't hard. Gardiner? Sure he had good offence but he was also the best player at hanging his teammates out to dry. Once Dermott is back, the Leafs have a capable top 4 in Rielly (should have been a Norris finalist), Muzzin, Dermott and Zaitsev. So really if Rosen (Who probably would have won the defenceman of the year award in the AHL had he not been injured blocking a shot) makes the jump, Dermott continues to progress, and Muzzin and Zaitsev continue to build off what they did late in the season and in the playoffs, the defence could be improved over last year. We really only need Rosen, and 1 other guy to surprise and Rosen wouldn't even be a big surprise, he's a terrific player.

All this doom and gloom is just wishful thinking from spiteful fans.
17 mai 2019 à 10 h 58
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Quoting: LoganOllivier


This one and many more we delivered already. You still trying to talk reason to the gloaters ? You sound like a guy with 6 kids in RL....full of patience.....
17 mai 2019 à 11 h 0
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This one and many more we delivered already. You still trying to talk reason to the gloaters ? You sound like a guy with 6 kids in RL....full of patience.....


If only you could see the angry retorts I always delete before posting lol. I honestly have no idea why I bother but hey, I believe people are smarter than they act.
17 mai 2019 à 14 h 7
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"Muzzin just didn't work out"

Yeah.. No. Stopped reading there. You clearly don't know much about this team.
 
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