If Dallas' pick elevates from a second to a first, then by definition that pick drops to #28 or further, depending upon how they do in the semifinals and finals, so I don't think this comes anywhere close to sufficient compensation to Colorado for leaving the #4 slot.

I just think the players available at 4 are too good to trade out of that spot. Swap out Namestikov for a young player like Andersson or Howden might help.

The Avalanche hang up. We will take probably our last top 5 choice for a long time.. A lot of our guys will be up for extension soon. So to have another top notch blue chipper on an ELC will be huge for this team. Only way we trade it if its bringing us back a star player that is under 25 years old that is also part of a bigger deal

Ahhh I see I see. This is the insight I appreciate. And of course this all makes sense. Got to really blow a team away to move from a spot that high.

Kreider and Namestnikov are pending UFAs, (Namestnikov being an over paid 3rd line player that can have a similar to better player picked up in UFA at his cap hit)....plus 2 very late picks

I don't see any must have value here for the 4th overall. Its just a collection of stuff to be honest. Give some real long term value to the Avs then they might be interested in this.
Avs are better off drafting at 4 and experience the development and growth of said player on an ELC then having to over pay to keep Kreider and wait 3-4 years to see if those draft picks pan out

If its deal that is build around a guy like Buchnevich being included, then you might have a better chance at getting 4th

said the exact same thing...to be honest on the Rangers, it would have to be Buchnevich to start the conversation IMO

I don't think there's any difference here in talent at pick 4 vs. pick 9. It doesn't make sense to trade up this year. Next year is the one.

I would be fine with that, but just so you know hes already 24

But still 3 more years of RFA control, I don't think there is a deal to be made but if there was come convos about the pick, it would be more in line with guys like Buch vs Kreider and Nam

I would do buch and andersson with the stars pick if it becomes a 1st

I think that could start a real convo there, it depends on what avs do in playoffs. If they get past sharks and get bounced in the west finals they might feel so close they can do this trade bc they feel they aren’t far off and are still adding younger players to make the final push.

If they are out in 5 or 6, pick will just go as planned and stay the course being patient

If you lose this you will get pick 16 IIRC so its not that bad