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Date de création initiale: 26 avr. 2019
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He posted on twitter he thinks an offer for marner would need to be north of 11 million to get him to sign before July 1st.
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26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 2
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Then Toronto either trades him at the trade or lets him sign an offer sheet, take the 4 1st round picks and go after Panarin
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 12
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Its gonna be in 10-11 mil range.
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 22
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talking Money without Term is for ignorants
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 23
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talking Money without Term is stupid


I agree with this. Dreger has said in the past that he doesn't think Marner is interested in max term, and he's also said that the leafs really prefer not to have marner and matthews come up in the same year, so my guess is he's thinking 6 year term.
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 24
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Then Toronto either trades him at the trade or lets him sign an offer sheet, take the 4 1st round picks and go after Panarin


Panarin will be signed by the time the offersheet comes in.

I’ve heard so much speculation from every direction... it’s ridiculous. If we use the nylander calculator 8.5m turned into 7m so does that mean we will get marner for 8.8m lol.

I think marner on an 8 year deal at 11m is still an overpay compared to the contracts signed last year. Can only hope we see some rfa’s sign before him to help set the market right. But if it takes 11m then you have to pay it and find a way. Hopefully we can get that knocked down a few 100k though.
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 25
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I agree with this. Dreger has said in the past that he doesn't think Marner is interested in max term, and he's also said that the leafs really prefer not to have marner and matthews come up in the same year, so my guess is he's thinking 6 year term.


"Analysts" need to "he said" a lot of things to justify their monthly wage.....
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 27
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"Analysts" need to "he said" a lot of things to justify their monthly wage.....


This isn't some scrub. This is Darren Dreger.
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26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 28
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"Analysts" need to "he said" a lot of things to justify their monthly wage.....


Or Leaf fans need to stop being delusional and realize that's what it's going to cost!
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26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 29
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Or Leaf fans need to stop being delusional and realize that's what it's going to cost!


again....Money / Term ....negotiations......think again
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 31
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Funny that you post “need to be over 11m” when he said north of 10m. Perhaps north of 11m.
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 32
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This isn't some scrub. This is Darren Dreger.


Agreed but still....would be interesting to make a survey over their "he said" thru months and check how many options they threw on the table already....at the end of day one of those 20 will be correct
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 36
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Agreed but still....would be interesting to make a survey over their "he said" thru months and check how many options they threw on the table already....at the end of day one of those 20 will be correct


not with darren dreger. He gave his opinion on something, his opinions are normally incredibly well informed, backed by a source, and turn out to be pretty accurate.
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 37
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again....Money / Term ....negotiations......think again


Again, delusional if you think he is taking anything short of $10.5 and that is on the short term deal.
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 40
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Funny that you post “need to be over 11m” when he said north of 10m. Perhaps north of 11m.


Same as with Matthews...."rumours" were he asked 8 x 13M ( still dont know on basis of what and why he thinks he deserves McDavids money )...it ended 5 x 11.6M, so that means each year in Matthews books was 470k from years 6 to 8....gj Dubarelli, cave more

For Marner the same....."rumours" were he asked 8 x 9M at summer....if its 8 x 11M now, im fine....as long as one year will be evaluated 1M and he will sign 5 x 8M

and thats how sane logic works in real world
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 41
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Again, delusional if you think he is taking anything short of $10.5 and that is on the short term deal.


Dont be sour.....PHI will draft some good things too....soon

And ofc....everyone in TML should get more then their comparables thru League.....*facepalm*
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 41
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Same as with Matthews...."rumours" were he asked 8 x 13M ( still dont know on the basis of what and why he thinks he deserves McDavids money )...it ended 5 x 11.6M, so that means each year in Matthews books was 470k from years 5 to 8....gj Dubarelli, cave more

For Marner the same....."rumours" were he asked 8 x 9M at summer....if its 8 x 11M now, im fine....as long as one year will be evaluated 1M and he will sign 5 x 8M

and thats how sane logic works in real world


Sane and less than $10 mil for Marner don't belong in the same sentence.
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26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 41
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Dont be sour.....PHI will draft some good things too....soon


LMFAO, our future is brighter than yours!
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 42
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LMFAO, our future is brighter than yours!


ehhhhh idk about that one.
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26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 43
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ehhhhh idk about that one.


Take another look at the Leafs D...
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 52
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Take another look at the Leafs D...


voracek and giroux aren't exactly spring chickens.
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26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 57
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voracek and giroux aren't exactly spring chickens.


That's why we have a plethora of kids like Konecny, Frost, Farabee, Lindblom, Couturier, Patrick, Ratcliffe, etc. Our forward group is going to be deep for a long time and our D looks much better than what the Leafs have or will have.

Oh and Voracek is 1 year older than Tavares...
26 avr. 2019 à 13 h 59
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Panarin will be signed by the time the offersheet comes in.

I’ve heard so much speculation from every direction... it’s ridiculous. If we use the nylander calculator 8.5m turned into 7m so does that mean we will get marner for 8.8m lol.

I think marner on an 8 year deal at 11m is still an overpay compared to the contracts signed last year. Can only hope we see some rfa’s sign before him to help set the market right. But if it takes 11m then you have to pay it and find a way. Hopefully we can get that knocked down a few 100k though.


Panarin could sign in Toronto on July 1 and Marner can sit there and wait till he gets his offer sheet or Toronto trades him. They don't have to have Marner done before that. They'll probably give him a hard number and say they can't go higher than it before the draft, if he says he won't take it then shift the focus to Panarin or another big free agent and move Marner. At minimum he's bring back 4 1st round picks or high quality players. He needs to stop being so greedy. He's the poster boy for everything and has all his endorsements on the side, he's getting his money. Reports had it out there that he was getting free rent last season in a downtown condo that wasn't cheap. How much more money does he need? .. IMO, Leafs give him a hard offer around $10M, term is variable. If he says no then he's not coming back next season and he'll be the most hated ex-Leaf probably ever
26 avr. 2019 à 14 h 0
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Or Leaf fans need to stop being delusional and realize that's what it's going to cost!


There's no point in arguing with him. He thinks Matthews shoulda signed for 8 years at $8.5M and he thinks Marner deserves around the same. All that gets Toronto is a trade request but he'll argue you all day that he's right about it lol
26 avr. 2019 à 14 h 5
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Panarin could sign in Toronto on July 1 and Marner can sit there and wait till he gets his offer sheet or Toronto trades him. They don't have to have Marner done before that. They'll probably give him a hard number and say they can't go higher than it before the draft, if he says he won't take it then shift the focus to Panarin or another big free agent and move Marner. At minimum he's bring back 4 1st round picks or high quality players. He needs to stop being so greedy. He's the poster boy for everything and has all his endorsements on the side, he's getting his money. Reports had it out there that he was getting free rent last season in a downtown condo that wasn't cheap. How much more money does he need? .. IMO, Leafs give him a hard offer around $10M, term is variable. If he says no then he's not coming back next season and he'll be the most hated ex-Leaf probably ever


Leafs pay for all the players places. These guys are well taken care of around the city. They will come to some sort of compromise. Your idea of signing an FA early is actually not bad at all.
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26 avr. 2019 à 14 h 12
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Leafs pay for all the players places. These guys are well taken care of around the city. They will come to some sort of compromise. Your idea of signing an FA early is actually not bad at all.


No they don't. That's actually illegal under the league rules. It wasn't the Leafs paying for it. It was his friends dad that paid his monthly rent for being such a good Leaf. It was on the Spittin Chiclets podcast recently

But imagine sighing Panarin on July 1 for 8 years at $10M per, then letting Marner at worst walk to an offer sheet and still getting 4 unprotected 1st round picks. & most of the serious contending teams don't have cap space to take on the $11M he's demanding, so he'd either go to a second tier or low tier team, which means there's a good chance that team doesn't make playoffs for at least 2 years and those picks become lottery picks. Could potentially be multiple 1 overall picks. I'd be happy with that
 
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