No

Quality > Quantity

Absolutely not. To move from 1st to 10th would probably take Pettersson and Juolevi, and even that might not be enough.

It’s Jack Hughes not Connor Mcdavid



What would it take? I also thought about 10th OVR, Horvat, and Demko. Maybe replace demko with markstrom?

Nah man, I just don't see the pick moving. VAN has not the pieces. Except Pettersson, which they are not willing to move.

Our G issue looks like it has shaken out IMO
Plus a #1 OA has never been moved like that
I was hoping for a 1-2 Devs-Nucks and see what could happen

I think they’d move Horvat but Idk if the devils would bite on it. I think the best the Canucks would offer is 10th OVR, Horvat, Markstrom, and maybe another big piece

Pettersson is the same caliber player as Hughes. Why would you think that Hughes is worth three top-10 picks of vancouvers? Seems illogical.

You could get some big ideas coming if you do it other way around. Like, move Quinn Hughes to NJ.

Because like it or not, right now Hughes is considered a franchise player, and therefore Pettersson is not viewed as the same caliber player as Hughes, any more than Sebastian Aho is seen as the same caliber player as John Tavares or Auston Matthews. Which is not to say that Pettersson or Aho aren't great players; they're both All-Stars and better than anybody I have on my two local teams with the possible exceptions of Drew Doughty and John Gibson. And that is also not to say that Hughes can't turn out to be the next Nail Yakupov. But right now, the perception is that Vancouver would have to part with the equivalent of three top-10 picks to get him.

what the OP posted isn't good enough for NJ but that is more in fair value than what you posted.. 10 (Zegras), Juolevi and Pettersson??.... I really like hughes he will be a special player like Pettersson but i wouldn't move pettersson for hughes one for one

I don't see a way this trade happens without Boeser going to NJ in that deal

As said before quality >over quantity. Hischier isnt their future number one, now they got their 1 2 locked down Zacha at 3c and they have good wingers already. They just need to fix their back end and theyre set

Hughes is being talked about in the same terms as Auston Matthews was. That may not be accurate, and in fact may be hype, but there we are. Would you trade Auston Matthews for anything less than Pettersson, Juolevi and the #10 overall?

Pettersson not viewed as a franchise player?? majority NA hockey media experts and analysts have been saying that Pettersson is a franchise player, just as Jack so yes they hold similar value.

I would trade Matthews for Pettersson and either 10th or Juolevi but then agian I wouldn't trade Pettersson ... yes Jack is getting same pre draft talk as Matthews that Pettersson didn't but this year Pettersson has been getting that talk to Matthews as a franchise player. The talk on Pettersson pre draft was his weight for his hight, the talk was that if his weight was more in line to his height he would have been the consensus 1st pick.

We'e having a different understanding of the term "franchise player." McDavid, Tavares, Crosby, Matthews, Bergeron, Stamkos, Kucherov, Ovechkin (and others) are franchise players. Aho and Pettersson and Marner are in the next strata: stars, maybe even superstars, but not at that super-elite level. I wouldn't trade Pettersson even up for any of those players, and right now, like it or not, Hughes is being talked about as in that class. You may be right, and he may never fulfill that expectation, but the question posed was what it would take right now for Vancouver to get him.

Fine. You love Pettersson. I get it. I'm not saying that you shouldn't. I hope he and Marner and Barzal and Aho all get elected to the Hall of Fame. But if a Toronto GM traded Matthews for Pettersson and the 10th overall pick, the next job he would get in hockey -- anywhere -- would be as arena janitor.

As I mentioned in other threads Van doesn't have the pieces nor do most teams, that's why the 1st oa is hardly ever traded, I wouldn't trade to move from 10 to 1 anyways.
Kurcherov, Bergeron, when drafted were never talked about in terms of franchise players, they grew into it . McDavid and Crosby were/are talked about as Generational players ,which these other players mentioned never were and are in a level of their own above the Matthews, Taveres, Bergerson, Stamkos, etc. and again as mentioned, this season NHL experts, scouts, some GMs etc have been saying that Pettersson is a Franchise player which is not a Generational Player. Most people group those two terms as meaning the same which it doesn't . Either way that move isn't happening, Hughes is going to NJ, he will be a fantastic player! in 4 years we will all be talking about the current Generational player McDavid and franchise players, Kucherov, Matthews, Hughes, Pettersson

are u ok?? Your saying jack hughes is worth pettersson juolevi and supposedly their first for a trade up? no way on earth would vancouver do that. i’d personally rather have pettersson than jack hughes let alone the 10th and juolevi

lol some of the decisions the Toronto GM has made he should be a janitor .. I don't love Pettersson, he has his a lot of work to do, I'm just pointing out what experts are saying at this point in time about him. I really like Jack and his game, he will be fun amazing to watch NJ has a special player. I'm excited to watch him with that team and some of the players that they have

This is exactly why this trade wouldn't ever happen on either end. NJ will always think it isn't enough, VAN will always think it's too much.

Fair now?

I still think NJ gets the better of this. But Juolevi's value is down so it's probably accurate.