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Équipe: 2019-20 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 8 avr. 2019
Publié: 8 avr. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
710 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
11 650 000 $
22 000 000 $
1990 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
87 750 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Point, Brayden14 700 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2019
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022
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BUF
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (NYI)
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BUF
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (VAN)
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2019
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2020
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 000 000 $70 612 500 $0 $5 532 500 $12 387 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
767 500 $767 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
990 000 $990 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 387 500 $3 387 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
812 500 $812 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AG
UFA - 1

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8 avr. 2019 à 13 h 58
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Why spend 10.5mil and 4 first round picks for Point, when you can go out and land a Duchene or Panarin for less money AND no picks
8 avr. 2019 à 14 h 25
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Why spend 10.5mil and 4 first round picks for Point, when you can go out and land a Duchene or Panarin for less money AND no picks


Because those guys probably don't want to sign in Buffalo (based on what we've been hearing and what not)...... if the offer sheet route doesn't work, Buffalo will be forced to straight up start bribing players by kidnapping their children. It's almost that bad.
8 avr. 2019 à 14 h 46
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Because those guys probably don't want to sign in Buffalo (based on what we've been hearing and what not)...... if the offer sheet route doesn't work, Buffalo will be forced to straight up start bribing players by kidnapping their children. It's almost that bad.


If your reasoning is that Duchene and Panarin dont want to sign with BUF, then using that same logic, Point refuses to sign your offer sheet (just because you offer sheet a player, doesnt mean they have to accept either). It seems that BUFs problem is free agents potentially dont want to sign there (heresay) then identify whats wrong with the team first and fix that. Moving 4 first round picks will do alot of long term damage to a team that cant consistently make the playoffs
8 avr. 2019 à 14 h 59
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If your reasoning is that Duchene and Panarin dont want to sign with BUF, then using that same logic, Point refuses to sign your offer sheet (just because you offer sheet a player, doesnt mean they have to accept either). It seems that BUFs problem is free agents potentially dont want to sign there (heresay) then identify whats wrong with the team first and fix that. Moving 4 first round picks will do alot of long term damage to a team that cant consistently make the playoffs


No but if Point is offered an offer sheet of 10.5M and Tampa says we'll only be able to give you 7M, point doesn't have the option to go to other teams and negotiate. Once an offer sheet has been given, the player can refuse but he can't start using that against other teams other than Tampa......

That's the difference. Panarin and Duchene don't (once again based on things we've heard and how Buffalo has done recently) even need to give Buffalo the time of day. Point has no choice but to contemplate it if the offersheet is the only one given other than what Tampa is offering.

Let be be clear giving up four 1st rounders, to Tampa off all effing teams, is not a smart idea but if you think simply identifying the problem and fixing it is that easy, think again. The problem isn't that solvable. Mainly because part of the problem is time. Buffalo is in the same boat as Edm. They need to start winning now. Not in 2-6 years when those picks develop.

Truth is, I don't think they should be targeting Point. If they think they can get by with their goalie tandem, then they are begging to miss the playoffs again. Not to mention that the depth of the team is highly in question also.
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No but if Point is offered an offer sheet of 10.5M and Tampa says we'll only be able to give you 7M, point doesn't have the option to go to other teams and negotiate. Once an offer sheet has been given, the player can refuse but he can't start using that against other teams other than Tampa......

That's the difference. Panarin and Duchene don't (once again based on things we've heard and how Buffalo has done recently) even need to give Buffalo the time of day. Point has no choice but to contemplate it if the offersheet is the only one given other than what Tampa is offering.

Let be be clear giving up four 1st rounders, to Tampa off all effing teams, is not a smart idea but if you think simply identifying the problem and fixing it is that easy, think again. The problem isn't that solvable. Mainly because part of the problem is time. Buffalo is in the same boat as Edm. They need to start winning now. Not in 2-6 years when those picks develop.

Truth is, I don't think they should be targeting Point. If they think they can get by with their goalie tandem, then they are begging to miss the playoffs again. Not to mention that the depth of the team is highly in question also.


The damage done (ie. losing 4 first rd picks - from a team consisitently not making the playoffs) is not worth the short term gain of Point, considering they dont have depth nor the goaltending to make a playoff push
8 avr. 2019 à 15 h 6
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No but if Point is offered an offer sheet of 10.5M and Tampa says we'll only be able to give you 7M, point doesn't have the option to go to other teams and negotiate. Once an offer sheet has been given, the player can refuse but he can't start using that against other teams other than Tampa......

That's the difference. Panarin and Duchene don't (once again based on things we've heard and how Buffalo has done recently) even need to give Buffalo the time of day. Point has no choice but to contemplate it if the offersheet is the only one given other than what Tampa is offering.

Let be be clear giving up four 1st rounders, to Tampa off all effing teams, is not a smart idea but if you think simply identifying the problem and fixing it is that easy, think again. The problem isn't that solvable. Mainly because part of the problem is time. Buffalo is in the same boat as Edm. They need to start winning now. Not in 2-6 years when those picks develop.

Truth is, I don't think they should be targeting Point. If they think they can get by with their goalie tandem, then they are begging to miss the playoffs again. Not to mention that the depth of the team is highly in question also.


Tampa doesn’t tell Point at that junction that they’ll only give him 7. If they have to give him 9-10 to make him happy, they’ll shop Miller/Gourde and Callahan to do it. Or they drop him if he wants 11+ and take the four firsts and Panarin, who will sign for 9-10 in Tampa, who is a coastal team with low income tax and happen to be the reigning Presidents Trophy winners.
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The damage done (ie. losing 4 first rd picks - from a team consisitently not making the playoffs) is not worth the short term gain of Point, considering they dont have depth nor the goaltending to make a playoff push


OK now you are getting away from the actual point of the original post man, get over it!

YOU said:

Why spend 10.5mil and 4 first round picks for Point, when you can go out and land a Duchene or Panarin for less money AND no picks

I said:

Because those guys probably don't want to sign in Buffalo (based on what we've been hearing and what not)..


If you want to take this conversation on forever, we won't get anywhere!
8 avr. 2019 à 15 h 9
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Tampa doesn’t tell Point at that junction that they’ll only give him 7. If they have to give him 9-10 to make him happy, they’ll shop Miller/Gourde and Callahan to do it. Or they drop him if he wants 11+ and take the four firsts and Panarin, who will sign for 9-10 in Tampa, who is a coastal team with low income tax and happen to be the reigning Presidents Trophy winners.


I was just making a Point (No pun intended).
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OK now you are getting away from the actual point of the original post man, get over it!

YOU said:

Why spend 10.5mil and 4 first round picks for Point, when you can go out and land a Duchene or Panarin for less money AND no picks

I said:

Because those guys probably don't want to sign in Buffalo (based on what we've been hearing and what not)..


If you want to take this conversation on forever, we won't get anywhere!


You are making assumptions that FA dont want to sign in BUF with no concrete source or proof - then continuing on with this fantasy that they will offer sheet and give up 4 1st rd picks (which historically has never happened).
8 avr. 2019 à 15 h 19
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You are making assumptions that FA dont want to sign in BUF with no concrete source or proof - then continuing on with this fantasy that they will offer sheet and give up 4 1st rd picks (which historically has never happened).


Ok can't do this anymore. You don't know how to read....... bye Karen!
 
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