Nylander worth Woo Gaudette maybe a 3rd, not a 1st

So you're basically saying Nylander is worth 2nd + 3rd + 5th .....

LMAO and GTFO

I wouldn't go near the OP's trade with a 10 foot pole .... and then you say this.

Yes Nylander worth like Kulak in MTL

I'd love to hear this "logic"

marleau might become allergic to his equipment lol

The reality is that that Leafs just might have to cut bait with Nylander. Leafs need cap space. Nylander has been awful this season. Now I think he is a lot better player than this year results. Leafs can't wait, especially if Marleau does return, Nylander being traded for non cap future might be the only solution for the Leafs. So the Leafs will have an auction. Thinking the offer presented is too high, due to 7m cap hit, though it is just a 4.9m per year cash outlay.
Woo and a 2nd might be the maximum return.
Sparks isn't getting that in return in a trade. Sparks can be retained and even he is sent to the minors next season he doesn't affect the cap. Leafs might have to the that TVR trade as a short term solution at RHD.

We could probably get Alzner for Nylander though ....

Woo + 2nd might be the maximum return ........... LOL.

Before the Leafs are "forced" to trade Nylander they will:

1. Not sign Gardiner = $6,000,000 saved.
2. Not sign Hainsey = $2,000,000 saved.
3. Not sign Ennis = $1,500,000 saved.
4. Trade Zaitsev = $4,500,000 saved (will cost picks + prospects though).
5. Trade Brown = $2,100,000 saved.
6. Trade Hyman = $2,250,000 saved.
7. Trade Muzzin = $4,000,000 saved.
8. Trade Kadri = $4,500,000 saved.
9. Trade Kapanen = $3,000,000 saved.
9. Ask Marleau to accept a trade + buyout so he can re-sign in Toronto (see Brooks Orpik).

If all of this fails they might trade Nylander.

His original logic or my comments logic?

Well, try making a rational 2019/20 roster with 83m instead of this silly list. Trading one player Nylander (with no money in return) solves the Leafs cap issue. Trading less amount, you need multiple trades to reach the 65m in net cap saving. Plus now you need multiple NHL replacements. Why do so many Leaf fans object to Nylander being traded? He just isn't that good as his 6 goals this season indicate. Heck his two best years are 20/40/60 seasons. Hardly untouchable status, but I guess some fans are more impressed by style than results. Now, I think Nylander might have more to give as a productive player but for cap reasons, he just might the guy has to be traded. A retired Marleau...solves more of the Leafs cap problems this off season.

His quote = "Nylander worth Woo Gaudette maybe a 3rd"

My quote = "So you're basically saying Nylander is worth 2nd + 3rd + 5th"

My Logic:

Jett Woo = 2018 2nd with a PPG in the WHL in his draft + 1 year .... He's still worth a 2nd.
Gaudette = 2015 5th with 12 points in 59 NHL games at the end of his draft + 4 year .... He's still worth a 5th.
A 3rd round pick is still worth a 3rd round pick.

Total value = 2nd + 3rd + 5th

What do you disagree with?

He's been back on pace for 60'ish points January 20th though ... and his SH% is still 50% lower than his career average. I think he'll be fine.

And a rational roster is pretty easy to make if you trade Zaitsev (add picks / prospects until someone takes him) + trade Brown.

Something out of this will make it easy to keep the core forwards intact:

Rielly - Hainsey ($6,900,000)
Muzzin - Dermott (4,900,000)
Rosen - Oziganov ($1,600,000)
Borgman - Holl ($1,400,000)
Sandin - Liljegren (Options)

Defense = $14,800,000

Then elsewhere we'll have:

$750,000 - Sparks
$675,000 - Gauthier
$765,000 - Marchment (pressbox)
$775,000 - Petan
$775,000 - Moore
$840,000 - Bracco
$925,000 - Engvall (pressbox)

That's 15 roster spots for around $20,000,000 with around $62,000,000 left for the other 8 guys.

It's not pretty ... but it'll fit and give us $10,000,000 for upgrades in 2020 (Marleau gone + cap growth) with basically only Dermott getting a raise.

I guess kucherov is only worth a 2nd then

Which one of them has done anything remotely close to Kucherov?

How does 12 points in 59 games after struggling to make the NHL raise Gaudette's trade value? (how much did Vancouver pay for Leivo? Similar situation no?)

How does a good OHL season that meets the expectations of a high 2nd round pick suddenly make Woo more valuable than a 2nd round pick?

Neither has done anything great compared to their draft position .... they haven't been busts either .... which makes them worth close to their original draft position.

Kucherov is borderline the the best player in the world now .... Gaudette is on the border of NHL / AHL players .... Woo is just as unknown as his draft day.

Grow up.