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Créé par: NucksnOilers
Équipe: 2019-20 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 23 mars 2019
Publié: 23 mars 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Please only respectful feedback. This is my first post here on this site and I just got into the hockey community so this might be very bad but enjoy.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 245 000 $
45 700 000 $
11 200 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Pouliot, Derrick [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Benning, Matthew
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Vesey, Jimmy
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
They get a player that can play with either leon or ryan and helps out with depth
NYR
  1. Yamamoto, Kailer
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
They get a young prospect and a high pick.
3.
EDM
  1. Jones, Seth
Détails additionnels:
I know that this is very unlikely but if most of their big time free agents leave then they will be looking to rebuild.
CBJ
  1. Bear, Ethan
  2. Benson, Tyler
  3. Larsson, Adam
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Rfa rights to jesse
4.
EDM
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Russell, Kris
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de EDM
Logo de WPG
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2021
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2022
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2019
Logo de NYR
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2079 500 000 $73 737 000 $0 $500 000 $5 763 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 835 000 $2 835 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 6
5 700 000 $5 700 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 275 000 $2 275 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 245 000 $1 245 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
687 500 $687 500 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 950 000 $1 950 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
894 167 $894 167 $
DD
RFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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23 mars 2019 à 19 h 43
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Could be worse
1. You can probably get more for benning
2. Vesey is nothing more than a 3rd liner
3. Jones is untouchable for columbus unless you start with draisaitl and add
4. Winnipeg will probably want retention over a high draft pick or not go after russell at all because of their cap situation
23 mars 2019 à 20 h 7
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My take in order
Benning trade is close but the picks should favour the Oilers
Yamamoto has a higher ceiling then Vesey so I wouldn’t do that one
Even if Columbus does rebuild, Jones is the exact type of player you rebuild around not trade
Russel is overpaid but I would not give a first round pick just to dump him. He is IMO a good 5-6 D for the 2 years remaining if we can’t find a taker
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23 mars 2019 à 20 h 15
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Could be worse
1. You can probably get more for benning
2. Vesey is nothing more than a 3rd liner
3. Jones is untouchable for columbus unless you start with draisaitl and add
4. Winnipeg will probably want retention over a high draft pick or not go after russell at all because of their cap situation


I understand that Benning is a better play then pouliot but i have seen people under value him for even 7th rounders so I was unsure.
I have seen vesey play like a 1st liner before so if he can stay in that form then he maybe will be able to produce with Mcdavid on his team it is risky but I think the oilers a willing to risk it at the point that they are at right now.
I know that even if they do rebuild you would want to build around jones but the already have werenski (sry if I typed it wrong) So I think that they would want to trade one away to rebuild.
I do regret the russel one as i could have added a 2rd instead to dump his salary.
Thank you for the feedback anyways.
23 mars 2019 à 20 h 17
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Welcome to the community. This armchair doesn't look horrible, especially for a first. I have seen a lot worse and I mean a lot worse. Only advise id give is your 1st round picks might be worth quite a bit more then you might realize since they are likely top 10 picks.
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23 mars 2019 à 20 h 22
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Quoting: goodaytoday
Welcome to the community. This armchair doesn't look horrible, especially for a first. I have seen a lot worse and I mean a lot worse. Only advise id give is your 1st round picks might be worth quite a bit more then you might realize since they are likely top 10 picks.


Thank you for the welcome. I just realized that know. Maybe a second would push it over.
23 mars 2019 à 20 h 23
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Quoting: DRshnuckels87
I understand that Benning is a better play then pouliot but i have seen people under value him for even 7th rounders so I was unsure.
I have seen vesey play like a 1st liner before so if he can stay in that form then he maybe will be able to produce with Mcdavid on his team it is risky but I think the oilers a willing to risk it at the point that they are at right now.
I know that even if they do rebuild you would want to build around jones but the already have werenski (sry if I typed it wrong) So I think that they would want to trade one away to rebuild.
I do regret the russel one as i could have added a 2rd instead to dump his salary.
Thank you for the feedback anyways.


Jones is way better than werenski and 1 of the best Dmen in the league
23 mars 2019 à 20 h 26
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This is still a bad team, and you’ve traded away much of the cost controlled future. Bouchard better at least start in the AHL. Where’s Khaira?

Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Could be worse
1. You can probably get more for benning
2. Vesey is nothing more than a 3rd liner
3. Jones is untouchable for columbus unless you start with draisaitl and add
4. Winnipeg will probably want retention over a high draft pick or not go after russell at all because of their cap situation


Jones trade would be Draisaitl and add is hilarious ?
23 mars 2019 à 20 h 26
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This is still a bad team, and you’ve traded away much of the cost controlled future. Bouchard better at least start in the AHL. Where’s Khaira?

Jones trade starts with Draisaitl and add is hilarious ?


Jones>draisaitl? Did I stutter?
23 mars 2019 à 20 h 30
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Jones>draisaitl? Did I stutter?


Who you think is better is irrelevant. If Columbus needs a #1 centre and Is flush with RD, they could only dream of getting Drai without Jones. Where’d you see a Draisaitl level player in the Karlsson trade, or the Burns trade?
23 mars 2019 à 20 h 47
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Quoting: yamahut
This is still a bad team, and you’ve traded away much of the cost controlled future. Bouchard better at least start in the AHL. Where’s Khaira?



Jones trade would be Draisaitl and add is hilarious ?


I let Kharia go because he has not been that good for edmonton and isn't worth the money I think he will be asking.
I think bouchard is a good d-man already he can switch with pouliot any time he wants.
Thank you for the feedback anyways.
23 mars 2019 à 21 h 6
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Quoting: DRshnuckels87
I let Kharia go because he has not been that good for edmonton and isn't worth the money I think he will be asking.
I think bouchard is a good d-man already he can switch with pouliot any time he wants.
Thank you for the feedback anyways.


The salary cap is going to be around 83 mill next season. You should trade RFA’s you don’t want. You’ve traded the top winger prospects, 2 firsts, and 2 nhl RD plus the most experienced RD prospect. If you’re worried about players costing too much the best way to go is draft and develop. Trading prospects for immediate help is one of the reasons the Oilers are where they are.

Sorry if I seem harsh, not my intention. Folks get defensive on this site so I get to the point. Welcome to Cap “friendly” lol
23 mars 2019 à 21 h 30
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Welcome to CapFriendly. Hope you enjoy of your time here.

Imo VAN and NYR trades are ok, giving up a first just to dump Russell seems pretty hefty, but that CBJ move isn't happening. Jones is about a TOP5 RHD on this league...very valuable. Werenski would be more likely to move, although I doubt that. Werenski-Jones brings a great first pair even for a rebuilding team.

Overall, I'd give this around 3/5. You have pretty good estimation in players' value, as far as I can see from this post. Things could be a lot worse.
23 mars 2019 à 21 h 37
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Welcome to CapFriendly. Hope you enjoy of your time here.

Imo VAN and NYR trades are ok, giving up a first just to dump Russell seems pretty hefty, but that CBJ move isn't happening. Jones is about a TOP5 RHD on this league...very valuable. Werenski would be more likely to move, although I doubt that. Werenski-Jones brings a great first pair even for a rebuilding team.

Overall, I'd give this around 3/5. You have pretty good estimation in players' value, as far as I can see from this post. Things could be a lot worse.


Thank you for your feedback I think that I under valued jones I will take this in mind for my next post on this site.
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