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Mark stone long term

Créé par: Cle_Cle
Équipe: 2019-20 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 29 janv. 2019
Publié: 29 janv. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
It might work if the sens will take Frolic and his gung-ho attitude plus Czarnik, a prospect and a second. but when you pay stone what he will command and do a bridge with Chucky, then I pull up long term, there is #2,3,5,6,7 Defencemen to be signed if you include Stone. huge Cap problem looming
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RFAANSCAP HIT
3700 000 $
1700 000 $
2700 000 $
3700 000 $
3700 000 $
21 200 000 $
21 200 000 $
2700 000 $
22 500 000 $
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21 000 000 $
43 100 000 $
47 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 100 000 $
78 700 000 $
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1.
CGY
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (CGY)
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
For the rental of Mark Stone at 2018-19 trade Deadline
OTT
  1. Czarnik, Austin
  2. Frolík, Michael
  3. Graovac, Tyler
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
2.
CGY
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
FLA
  1. McDonald, Mason
  2. Quine, Alan
  3. Ryan, Derek
Détails additionnels:
Two prospects with upside for the Cash dump on Ryan
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2383 000 000 $74 579 208 $0 $747 500 $8 420 792 $
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
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UFA - 3
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6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
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4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
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UFA - 5
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
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UFA - 3
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 5
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
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UFA - 8
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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1 675 000 $1 675 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AG, AD, C
RFA - 2
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
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700 000 $700 000 $
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UFA - 1
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3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
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4 650 400 $4 650 400 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
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1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
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3 857 143 $3 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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730 833 $730 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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755 833 $755 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DD
UFA - 1
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
DD
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29 janv. 2019 à 18 h 23
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To be 100% honest I really like this. Personally I think you move Neal and sign Chucky to a longer term. Work him into the stone deal. Flames have been kickin ass this year. Been really fun to watch.
29 janv. 2019 à 18 h 24
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You think you're getting Stone for nothing at the deadline? Frolik's deadweight salary, Czarnik's a 4th liner and Graovac's AHL player. Just where is the value?

Even as a rental, Stone is gonna cost at the bare minimum Välimäki, Bennett and a 1st rounder.
29 janv. 2019 à 18 h 27
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Quoting: TheChief
You think you're getting Stone for nothing at the deadline? Frolik's deadweight salary, Czarnik's a 4th liner and Graovac's AHL player. Just where is the value?

Even as a rental, Stone is gonna cost at the bare minimum Välimäki, Bennett and a 1st rounder.


Totally agree, I see zero value for Ottawa in that trade.
29 janv. 2019 à 18 h 31
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You may have a point but you won't have a deal, Stone's shelf life is 27 days and after that Treliving will go open market on July one.
29 janv. 2019 à 18 h 44
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Quoting: TheChief
You think you're getting Stone for nothing at the deadline? Frolik's deadweight salary, Czarnik's a 4th liner and Graovac's AHL player. Just where is the value?

Even as a rental, Stone is gonna cost at the bare minimum Välimäki, Bennett and a 1st rounder.


Okay I completely agree that what's been offered isn't anything for Stone, but you're way off with "Välimäki, Bennett and a 1st rounder" for Stone. That only even gets considered if Calgary has an extension with him as key of the trade. Otherwise it's a VAST overpayment.
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29 janv. 2019 à 19 h 24
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Okay I completely agree that what's been offered isn't anything for Stone, but you're way off with "Välimäki, Bennett and a 1st rounder" for Stone. That only even gets considered if Calgary has an extension with him as key of the trade. Otherwise it's a VAST overpayment.


As neither a flames nor send fan of say it is a slight overpayment but it is closer to market value than op posted. It's a bit of an overpayment. The offer above is a joke of underpayment.

It's a second a cap dump, an ahler and a decent depth player.

Trading for a stud rental is typically the old "1st, a prospect and a young player". Bennett is likely a bit higher value than you want to offer

Make it Valimaki, 1st, and czarnick
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29 janv. 2019 à 19 h 26
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You may have a point but you won't have a deal, Stone's shelf life is 27 days and after that Treliving will go open market on July one.


It's fine to not want to pay the price, but that doesn't mean anyone wants your cast offs.

What you offered was a second, minimal value (depth player, negative value (overpaid player), no value (warm body ahler)
29 janv. 2019 à 19 h 27
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Quoting: jonesryan
Okay I completely agree that what's been offered isn't anything for Stone, but you're way off with "Välimäki, Bennett and a 1st rounder" for Stone. That only even gets considered if Calgary has an extension with him as key of the trade. Otherwise it's a VAST overpayment.


Ottawa gets more if it's a sign and trade. Otherwise, Valimaki, Bennett and a 1st is fair. Calgary really overvalues Bennett. Getting dangerously close to a bust as a 1st rounder and 4th overall.
29 janv. 2019 à 20 h 12
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Why only 4 years on Tkachuk?? He becomes an ufa at the end of the deal???
30 janv. 2019 à 11 h 55
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Quoting: Sportsing613
Ottawa gets more if it's a sign and trade. Otherwise, Valimaki, Bennett and a 1st is fair. Calgary really overvalues Bennett. Getting dangerously close to a bust as a 1st rounder and 4th overall.


If Stone walks as a UFA his value is dramatically less than as a straight hockey trade. Even as a straight hockey trade, Stone straight across for Valimaki is about right, maybe throw in a mid-level pick....
31 janv. 2019 à 7 h 46
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Quoting: cberg
If Stone walks as a UFA his value is dramatically less than as a straight hockey trade. Even as a straight hockey trade, Stone straight across for Valimaki is about right, maybe throw in a mid-level pick....


Lol Valimaki hasn't proven anything. Discussion for Stone starts with a 1st, then a high prospect, then a young roster player. That's the rate. People can suggest otherwise but that only makes them look foolish.
 
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