Modifié 21 janv. 2019 à 18 h 51
Quoting: BetterBrianMaclellan
well I'm not trading for post-prime Martin Erat. I'm trading for a Tarasenko, a truly elite player who is highly skilled who is on a great contract (both cap hit and term). While I think Vrana will do well in the league, its ridiculous to think that he is as much of a sure thing as Tarasenko is.
I mean, this year Tarasenko has four more points. Most offensive players do their best between ages 23 and 27. So I think it's really reasonable to expect Tarasenko to continue trending downward.
Erat was on a pace for 45 points (down from his usual 49 or 50) when he was traded to Washington, where and injury, reduced ice time, and worse linemates left him with three points in nine games, the rest of the way.
Forsberg was seventh among forwards in points on a team somewhere in Sweden, and nobody could have predicted he would be a 40 point NHLer any year soon.
Erat was 31, which I guess is older than 27, but Forsberg had yet to set foot in the NHL and that trade lost McPhee is job. The real MacLellan has said it's one he'd like to have back. Including Vrana in a Tarasenko trade means STL has to add. Maybe Kostin? Maybe Kyrou? Not picky, but it's not a one for one. Including Niskanen and Vrana is effing ridiculous.
Love Tarasenko. An all world talent. But having an off year and currenly not significantly better than Vrana. By points/60, Vrana is already ahead, 2.29 to 2.11. By cap hit, Vrana is definitely ahead. I get that it would be cool to put three of the best Russian players on the same line, but for the Capitals to be involved, they'll want to be reasonably sure the trade improves their team. Vrana for Tarasenko, straight up, is a leap of faith. I wouldn't add Geisser to that. And there is no salary dump to be found on Washington, so to make that happen, STL has to make a huge offer of picks and prospects for Holtby, and then if that's acceptable, the Caps can trade Vrana for Tarasenko, and then bring up Samsonov.
Might take Thomas and a couple 2nds?