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Trade Vesa WPG BUF Trade

Créé par: lamar1226
Équipe: 2018-19 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 20 janv. 2019
Publié: 20 janv. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
what could we give to get Lemieux? Mcquaid and Lindgren or Vesey?
leave your thoughts in the comments
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Kulikov, Dmitry
  2. Vesalainen, Kristian
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
- Kulikov much needed cap dump for next year
- Would prefer Vesalainen but Appleton is a close substitute
- Conditional 2nd becomes 1st if WPG wins cup or resigns Hayes
WPG
  1. Hayes, Kevin
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
-Conditional TBL 2nd if WPG wins cup
2.
NYR
  1. Moulson, Matt
  2. Pekar, Matej
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
Somewhat taken from a BUF post except they had CJ Smith instead of Pekar, Vesey instead of Namestnikov, and a 2021 2nd instead of a 2020 2nd. Would work either way IMO
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AG, AD, C
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AD, AG
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708 750 $708 750 $
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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750 000 $750 000 $
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5 700 000 $5 700 000 $
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6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
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700 000 $700 000 $
DG
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
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20 janv. 2019 à 12 h 22
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Peg are not trading Vesalainen for a rental. Not trading him at all.
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20 janv. 2019 à 12 h 30
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First of all, that trade is heavily in the jets favour.
I think the jets will be fine without any major upgrades this season. Though if you are okay with Appleton instead of vesalainen, the jets jump all over this trade. I think the jets will hold onto Lemieux. The coach is starting to like him and he is starting to score.

I do not think that Appleton will ever be more than a bottom-six forward . (Think Armia type player)
I could be wrong with this if Appleton can improve his skating a bit more.

If Kulikov continues to play like he is, he will not cost a lot to dump so I think the jets keep him until the offseason when they trade him to a team such ad MTL with a low prospect like suess and a 4th with a 7th in return
20 janv. 2019 à 12 h 44
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Peg are not trading Vesalainen for a rental. Not trading him at all.


is that confirmed from the gm or owner?
20 janv. 2019 à 12 h 50
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For one, everything that's happened with Hayes from since he was drafted says to me he's a clown who I wouldn't want anywhere near a contending team looking at a deep playoff run. I hope the Jets stay far away from him and his ego.
Secondly, if they feel they need another center(I'm not convinced that the Jets do)and they're willing to trade Vesalainen it better be for someone with term like Zibenejad.
20 janv. 2019 à 12 h 54
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Quoting: lamar1226
is that confirmed from the gm or owner?


It’s confirmed with common sense.

Small market, small arena, low revenue team that has Laine, Conner, Trouba, Roslovic, Copp, Lemieux, Brossoit, Petan all coming due via RFA . Myers and Chiarot UFAs. Unlikey to sign them all they are not trading their top propect that will end up replacing lost assets for someone they can’t re-sign.
20 janv. 2019 à 12 h 54
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Quoting: arafay
First of all, that trade is heavily in the jets favour.
I think the jets will be fine without any major upgrades this season. Though if you are okay with Appleton instead of vesalainen, the jets jump all over this trade. I think the jets will hold onto Lemieux. The coach is starting to like him and he is starting to score.

I do not think that Appleton will ever be more than a bottom-six forward . (Think Armia type player)
I could be wrong with this if Appleton can improve his skating a bit more.

If Kulikov continues to play like he is, he will not cost a lot to dump so I think the jets keep him until the offseason when they trade him to a team such ad MTL with a low prospect like suess and a 4th with a 7th in return


The Jets really miss Armia, he's one of the most under rated players in the league. Wonder if the Jets could just swap Kulikov for Schlemko, Habs get the better/younger defenseman and the Jets get a depth piece for about half the cost. They both expire after next season so not a major risk for either team, Jets maybe add a 4th round pick at most.
20 janv. 2019 à 13 h 27
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The Sabre trade is most likely a fair exchange of talent. The Rangers would need to take a low level prospect or roster player to balance the contracts. IMO Betterall would negotiate that 2nd round pick for something else.
20 janv. 2019 à 13 h 40
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
For one, everything that's happened with Hayes from since he was drafted says to me he's a clown who I wouldn't want anywhere near a contending team looking at a deep playoff run. I hope the Jets stay far away from him and his ego.
Secondly, if they feel they need another center(I'm not convinced that the Jets do)and they're willing to trade Vesalainen it better be for someone with term like Zibenejad.


What are you talking about? Hayes is the nicest guy ever.
20 janv. 2019 à 14 h 50
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What are you talking about? Hayes is the nicest guy ever.


Sorry I just don't see him being a good fit for the Jets at all. I love trades and deadline day but would rather the Jets stay away from pricey rentals.
20 janv. 2019 à 15 h 0
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Sorry I just don't see him being a good fit for the Jets at all. I love trades and deadline day but would rather the Jets stay away from pricey rentals.


That is understandable. Why did you call him a clown though?
20 janv. 2019 à 15 h 14
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Quoting: Trade_is_one_for_one
That is understandable. Why did you call him a clown though?


I'm a bit of an @$$hole sometimes... Lol
Well the guys who wait it out and screw the teams around who drafted them irritate me, that's what Hayes and Vesey did. I don't think that should be allowed.
20 janv. 2019 à 17 h 59
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I'm a bit of an @$$hole sometimes... Lol
Well the guys who wait it out and screw the teams around who drafted them irritate me, that's what Hayes and Vesey did. I don't think that should be allowed.


Good on you lol.
I do think they should be allowed to do that. Teams have so much control over their players, we shouldn't frown upon players exercising CBA rights. If a player wasn't allowed to do that, he would be forced to play for a team where he doesn't want to go until he turns 27. I think that's too extreme.
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20 janv. 2019 à 18 h 6
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Good on you lol.
I do think they should be allowed to do that. Teams have so much control over their players, we shouldn't frown upon players exercising CBA rights. If a player wasn't allowed to do that, he would be forced to play for a team where he doesn't want to go until he turns 27. I think that's too extreme.


I see your point but I don't have to like it.. Lol
Its only 24 or 25 if they sign at 18 though, or am I wrong about that?
20 janv. 2019 à 19 h 40
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I see your point but I don't have to like it.. Lol
Its only 24 or 25 if they sign at 18 though, or am I wrong about that?


If they play in the NHL at 18, yes. But I was working on the premise that they don't want to sign, therefore, no NHL games played -> no UFA until 27.
 
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