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Nurse is a top pairing d man now

Créé par: kailer_memeamoto
Équipe: 2018-19 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 17 janv. 2019
Publié: 17 janv. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
never thought i'd see it happen, but with all these young d prospects coming in, someone will have to get traded.
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EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (DAL)
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EDM
  1. Schlemko, David
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
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Oilers take on the cap of schlemko (though it's already buried in the minors) and the habs get a decent #4-5 d man, which the oilers already have in jones/russell
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    17 janv. 2019 à 12 h 42
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    I assume Jones will get sent down once Klefbom is healthy. He's played well, but we can send him down without waivers, and he's definitely a little sloppy still
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    17 janv. 2019 à 12 h 45
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    rangers do not take that trade. if kreider was a pure rental it's still a lowish offer, but he has a full year left on his deal.
    17 janv. 2019 à 12 h 46
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    Habs don’t really need a RD man. Have plenty of 3rd pairing type of dmen.
    17 janv. 2019 à 12 h 47
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    Outside of Bouchard, what young D prospects are you referring too? Edmonton has one of the weakest prospect pools in the league! Fire the GM hire Mark Hunter and aim for being in the playoffs in 3 seasons.
    17 janv. 2019 à 13 h 21
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    Quoting: Spanky227
    rangers do not take that trade. if kreider was a pure rental it's still a lowish offer, but he has a full year left on his deal.


    he's a quick, 50-60 point guy. They're getting a top 20 pick and a top 9 fwd prospect. If you look at the ask for most other similar players, this is pretty close
    17 janv. 2019 à 13 h 23
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    Quoting: LoganOllivier
    Outside of Bouchard, what young D prospects are you referring too? Edmonton has one of the weakest prospect pools in the league! Fire the GM hire Mark Hunter and aim for being in the playoffs in 3 seasons.


    Bouchard, Jones, Bear, Lagesson, Persson, Samorukov all good defensive prospects. The defensive prospect pool is pretty good, the forwards not so much (Yamamoto, Benson, Safin, Maksimov).
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    17 janv. 2019 à 13 h 25
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    Quoting: LoganOllivier
    Outside of Bouchard, what young D prospects are you referring too? Edmonton has one of the weakest prospect pools in the league! Fire the GM hire Mark Hunter and aim for being in the playoffs in 3 seasons.


    you really are blind. that's one of the stupidest things i've read all day. Yamamoto, Bouchard are decent blue chip prospects. Tons of late round steals in skinner, rodrigue, maksimov, samorukov, bear, jones recently. Benson leads all AHL rookies in assists at 20 years old. Puljujarvi really is the only one not working out, and the drafting used to suck, but it's looking up.
    17 janv. 2019 à 13 h 27
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    I don't think the cap space works on any of this unless Sekera stays on the LTIR plus I don't think anyone is trading for Manning, doubt he'd even be picked up off waivers. The Petrovic Schlemko deal seems a bit farfetched as well, can't see the Oiler's flipping him so quickly just to end up with a bad contract.

    I think there is something there on the Kreider deal but needs more salary going to NYR.
    17 janv. 2019 à 13 h 28
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    I don't think the cap space works on any of this unless Sekera stays on the LTIR plus I don't think anyone is trading for Manning, doubt he'd even be picked up off waivers. The Petrovic Schlemko deal seems a bit farfetched as well, can't see the Oiler's flipping him so quickly just to end up with a bad contract.

    I think there is something there on the Kreider deal but needs more salary going to NYR.


    Maybe spooner is added ontop? He fit in well a year ago with the rangers
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    17 janv. 2019 à 13 h 34
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    Maybe spooner is added ontop? He fit in well a year ago with the rangers


    That's a tough sell, might be able to swing it if you retain just enough to make the numbers work.
    17 janv. 2019 à 13 h 39
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    Quoting: bwar
    Bouchard, Jones, Bear, Lagesson, Persson, Samorukov all good defensive prospects. The defensive prospect pool is pretty good, the forwards not so much (Yamamoto, Benson, Safin, Maksimov).


    Bouchard and Bear are the only guys mentioned who aren't B level or lower. Hire Mark Hunter.
    17 janv. 2019 à 13 h 44
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    Quoting: LoganOllivier
    Bouchard and Bear are the only guys mentioned who aren't B level or lower. Hire Mark Hunter.


    Caleb Jones seems to at that level and is in the NHL right now. Samorukov was just at the world Juniors for Russia. Lagesson having a very good first season in the AHL. And Persson posting his second very good campaign in Sweden. Defense prospect pool is just fine.
    17 janv. 2019 à 13 h 46
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    Quoting: roosroos
    you really are blind. that's one of the stupidest things i've read all day. Yamamoto, Bouchard are decent blue chip prospects. Tons of late round steals in skinner, rodrigue, maksimov, samorukov, bear, jones recently. Benson leads all AHL rookies in assists at 20 years old. Puljujarvi really is the only one not working out, and the drafting used to suck, but it's looking up.


    If you have so many blue chip prospects, why does TSN have you ranked with zero guys in the top 50 affiliated prospects? I know Button is a bit of a tool and Bouchard probably deserves being on there but Yamamoto isn't that good and the rest aren't great either. Its easy to see someone as valuable when he's the best you have but if the best isn't all that great to begin with, then the rest aren't superstars either. Listen man, I really want the Oilers to be a good team, I love McDavid and the city needs a winner. With that being said, I am also not going to sugar coat the situation there. The team isn't near good enough. They've drafted exceptionally poorly, have made a tonne of bad trades and signings and ownership and upper management have zero idea how to succeed in the current era of hockey we are in.

    So instead of getting angry because someone says something negative about your team and in turn verbally attacking someone for saying something you don't like, try taking a deep breath step back from the picture and try to see the whole thing. Really dude, the Oilers are struggling to make the playoffs in a really poor division in the weaker of the two conferences. Vancouver should absolutely not be in a playoff race, but they are because the Pacific is so weak and after the top 4 teams in the Central, there isn't much there either. Don't settle for being a playoff team, demand better from your management team. Get someone who has the intelligence to pick the right players to succeed in this day and age of the NHL. Chiarelli is the worst and his bosses all want to make the playoffs because they are idiots who don't understand hockey anymore.
    17 janv. 2019 à 13 h 49
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    Caleb Jones seems to at that level and is in the NHL right now. Samorukov was just at the world Juniors for Russia. Lagesson having a very good first season in the AHL. And Persson posting his second very good campaign in Sweden. Defense prospect pool is just fine.


    I totally understand what you are thinking here, and one of those guys could very well hit, but in reality out of that list Bouchard is the one guy with a high probability of being an impact player. Bear looks pretty okay as well but Jones looks like a depth guy. Most of the prospects on any team will sign their ELC's and 3 years later be gone, mainly because the jump from the AHL, or Sweden or the OHL to the NHL is massive!

    Edmonton doesn't need a bunch of okay prospects, they've had okay prospects for the past decade and only a couple guys picked outside of the 1st round have seen NHL action. You definitely need a better scouting staff and management team.
    17 janv. 2019 à 13 h 58
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    Quoting: LoganOllivier
    I totally understand what you are thinking here, and one of those guys could very well hit, but in reality out of that list Bouchard is the one guy with a high probability of being an impact player. Bear looks pretty okay as well but Jones looks like a depth guy. Most of the prospects on any team will sign their ELC's and 3 years later be gone, mainly because the jump from the AHL, or Sweden or the OHL to the NHL is massive!

    Edmonton doesn't need a bunch of okay prospects, they've had okay prospects for the past decade and only a couple guys picked outside of the 1st round have seen NHL action. You definitely need a better scouting staff and management team.


    I might be out of the loop but how many teams have better defensive prospect pools than Edmonton? I'm sure we aren't the best but I'd be surprised if we aren't in the top 10. Not making that same argument on the offensive side of things but our drafting and development has greatly improved and we finally have players starting to trickle into the NHL from outside the first round. This has been a huge issue in Edmonton that is slowly being corrected. Jones is likely in the NHL permanently, drafted in the fourth round, Khaira is a very important player on the roster and still improving, third round pick. Our scouting staff was terrible for the better part a decade and now they are improved greatly. Our management is the biggest joke in the league but we do have actual development happening finally.
    17 janv. 2019 à 14 h 7
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    Quoting: bwar
    I might be out of the loop but how many teams have better defensive prospect pools than Edmonton? I'm sure we aren't the best but I'd be surprised if we aren't in the top 10. Not making that same argument on the offensive side of things but our drafting and development has greatly improved and we finally have players starting to trickle into the NHL from outside the first round. This has been a huge issue in Edmonton that is slowly being corrected. Jones is likely in the NHL permanently, drafted in the fourth round, Khaira is a very important player on the roster and still improving, third round pick. Our scouting staff was terrible for the better part a decade and now they are improved greatly. Our management is the biggest joke in the league but we do have actual development happening finally.


    All it takes is 1 player to be ranked higher than Bouchard and that team has a better defensive prospect pool than the Oilers. Vancouver, Chicago, Colorado, Tampa, Nashville, Carolina, Calgary, Islanders, Philly, Toronto a ways ahead of Edmonton and if you take out Bouchard, it gets much worse.
     
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